Jed, to be a good test you would need to have a hot pipe connected metallically 
a short distance from the cold pipe you were measuring.  It would be ideal if 
you could obtain a heat exchanger and make a setup very much like Rossi's.  I 
do not think anyone would doubt that the temperature of the pipe exterior would 
reflect that of the water within unless another source of heat is contributing.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 6:04 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Will tests surface mounted thermocouples on pipe


I wrote:
 


Try placing at thermocouple on a hot pipe, in various spots, under various 
covers. You will find the differences are insignificant.



I did this years ago, working at Hydrodynamics. I happen to have a nice dual 
input thermocouple, with a T1 - T2 mode, so I will try it again with a copper 
hot water pipe, with and without insulation and so on. I will do this under the 
kitchen sink. Varying water temperatures do not matter because I am looking for 
a difference between T1 and T1 (when they are mounted differently), and the 
response is quick.


I have insulated all of the hot water pipes in my house foam pipe insulation. 
Look it up at Lowe's. It works remarkably well. Anyway, I'll try it with and 
without that, in air, under bubble wrap and a few other ways.


I have different kinds of probes too. I use a shielded probe for cooking 
turkey. I'll just use the regular ones for this test.


I can compare the actual fluid temp to the pipe temp if you like. I'll bet it 
is the same to within 0.3 deg C.


You people should do stuff like this, instead of blabbing for weeks at a time 
about magic pots full of water that do not cool down.


- Jed






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