[I sent this message with 2 itty-bitty photos attached. It probably
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Okay. I did some rudimentary tests with thermocouples taped to the outside
of flexible braided 1/2 inch pipes under my bathroom sink. I can supply the
gory details if anyone is interested. Summary:

I measured in the evening from 8:42 to 10:19 p.m., and again in the morning
from 8:00 to 8:31 a.m.

I used an Omega HH12B dual probe thermocouple and two red liquid
thermometers. See:

http://www.omega.com/pptst/HH11B.html

I taped two probes to the outside of the hot water pipe, with plastic
Band-Aids, then covered them with foam pipe insulation. This is a crude
method. Rossi's insulated tape is better.

I measured the water temperature as it flowed into the sink using a red
liquid thermometer.

These pipes are well insulated. Much better than copper or steel pipes. The
difference between the water temperature and the pipe surface temperature
was typically around 7°C.

There is a surprisingly large difference in temperature from one location
on the pipe to the other. It ranges from ~2.4 to ~3.0°C.

Where the T2 probe was taped, I tied the hot water pipe and cold water pipe
together with string, wrapped them in shipping tape, and then wrapped the
whole thing in foam pipe insulation. [DO NOT SEE the two photos NOT
attached.] T1 is higher up on the pipe, T2 is below, where the pipes are
tied together. T1 heated up faster and remained persistently warmer. The T2
probe is on the side opposite the cold water pipe.

Tying the pipes together and insulating them together made no measurable
difference to the temperature registered at the T2 location. I think I can
measure a difference here of ~0.2°C. There was no measurable difference
between these three situations:

With hot water running --

1. T2 location by itself (not tied to the cold water pipe)
2. T2 tied to the cold water pipe, no cold water flowing
3. T2 tied to cold water pipe with cold water flowing

With hot water off, cold water running, after a night of cooling--

4. T2 tied to cold water pipe. A slight change of ~0.1°C may have
registered after 5 min. The cold water was 16°C, ambient 18°C. With no
water flowing T1-T2 was initially ~0.0°C ~0.1°C (a bias) and after 5 min.
of cold water it occasionally registered 0.2°C.

This arrangement was rather noisy because of changes in the hot water
temperature. These were more rapid than I expected they would be. I ended
up using the MIN/MAX feature for 5-minute segments. In most cases I
compared   T1 to T2, which eliminates the effect of hot water temperature
changes. I also compared T2 to itself over 5 minute segments. I did this
with and without cold water flowing. In some cases I zeroed out the
difference with the REL key before starting 5 minute measurements.

- Jed

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