On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Did you read what I wrote about this? What I wrote SEVERAL DOZEN TIMES?!?
>

Unfortunately repetition does not make it true.

Although some experts question these results, most believe that the reactor
> must have produced large amounts of anomalous heat, for the following
> reasons:
>
I don't like your sampling methods, but it's a shame we have to rely on
beliefs.

> . . . When a poorly insulated metal vessel is filled with 30 L of boiling
> water, it begins to cool immediately.
>
What kind of description is "poorly insulated metal vessel"?  How poorly.
What's its mass? Its thermal mass?

> It can only grow cooler; it cannot remain hot or grow hotter; that would
> violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics. . . .
>
On average yes. But if the inside starts hotter, the outside can certainly
become warmer. You can prove this with a space heater. Pull the plug while
the surface is still warming up, and it will continue to warm up for a
while.

It's especially possible if you have a vapor - liquid equilibrium, where
the temperature will be determined by the pressure. For example, if a
closed container, the bulk of which is at a few hundred degrees, contains
boiling water, and you close the exit so the pressure increases. The
temperature of the water goes up. And the 2nd law remains intact.

> Unfortunately, this test was marred by problems that made it impossible to
> accurately determine how much energy was produced. Peak power was nominally
> 8 kW but the instruments were so imprecise it might have been lower or much
> higher, perhaps 10 kW.
>
1 kW is consistent with the data.

 However, these problems -- bad as they are -- do not negate the findings.
>

They introduce enough uncertainty so the evidence does not prove Rossi's
claims.

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