On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Robert Leguillon <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  I wasn't done assembling that list, and sent it by accident.  It's been
> sitting in draft form for awhile, and I was adding a bit.  Still, since
> it's out there:
>
> Defkalion has claimed to have 115 Hyperions in simultaneous operation for
> production of a 1 MW reactor.  They've never seen gains less than 19x input.
> They claimed in the beginning of July that the government testing was in
> progress.
>
> This is contradicted by Rossi's claims that they never had a reactor.
> ___________
>
> The revelation that a few people have visted the factory in order to lay
> the foundation for independent testing is great news.  It is obviously not
> confirmation or hard evidence of any kind, but everyone should agree that
> it's a positive sign.
> There may have been "suspicious" claims in the past, but I think it's
> possible that great strides have been made since the Rossi-fallout
>


This is both useful and interesting but I am not clear on what you are
saying.  Rossi and Defkalion can not both be telling the truth.   In your
estimation,  who is lying and why?  Do you really think Defkalion had 115
reactors working back in July?

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