Yes, as Mr. Lawrence noted, aliases are sometimes used, with little or no
comments from the Collective. However, those contributors usually provide a
high signal-to-noise in their postings, for example, Axil Axil. He has 129
postings since 8/18/2011 (5 months), and nearly all of them are signal,
heavy on technical content, links to interesting technical papers or
original thought. Yugo, on the other hand, has 835 postings since only
11/10/2011 (2 months)! Nearly all of them are noise - she is 'only
responding to the believers continued misinformation'; her points can be
summarized thus:
- None of the e-Cat demos have been incontrovertible (most here agree). MY
has provided some useful comment/data, but most is simply the repetition
about inconclusiveness, and how easy it would be for Rossi to allow
independent test that would satisfy skeptics. All these are points made long
before she arrived.
- Contradictions in statements made by Rossi or DGT over time (these *prove*
nothing, and most were also noticed prior to MY's arrival).
- Rossi's 'checkered' past (which the Collective had ferreted out by April,
long before MY arrived on the scene).
- Her personal suspicions based on the previous points. we all have these,
but they prove nothing unless its first-hand, and/or there is factual info
to back them up.
This forum was primarily formed to allow people to ask themselves, *what if*
some person's wild-ass claims are real. and to then discuss the technical
aspects without it digressing into the true believers vs pathological
skeptics. It therefore tries to NOT focus on the person, as Jed has pointed
out, even a notorious murderer (the Birdman of Alcatraz) can have novel
insights which would be of interest to this forum. There is plenty of
skepticism even without MY, and seldom do the 'regulars' ever reach
consensus when discussing an issue. See:
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/weird/wvort.html
http://amasci.com/weird/vmore.html
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If you haven't already, please make sure to read the Rules:
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So, remain anonymous if you wish, but please try to avoid endless repetition
of non-technical aspects and your 'suspicions', unless you have factual data
to back them up. Realize that this forum has been around for over 15 years,
and has followed LENR and the E-Cat very closely. there is little that has
NOT been discussed and analyzed to death. If keenly interested, then please
take time to read thru the archives starting from last January, which was
Rossi's first 'demo'. If interested in LENR, then visit lenr.org, Jed
Rothwell's site, which is a repository of all LENR/CF material,
good/bad/ugly, that the authors have agreed to its being available. Before
you hit the 'Send' button, ask yourself, is this posting signal or noise?
Looking forward to your thoughtful analyses.
-Mark
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Heat Output
ChemE: Not to worry, while real names are preferred, the frown on
pseudonyms is not especially intense. If you want to call yourself ChemE I
dare say nobody's going to care much (unless you start trolling).
We've had people using pseudonyms off and on for as long as I can recall;
some were contentious and some were not. As an example, someone named
"Leaky Pen" was a regular here for years.
And as to MY, she has stated that her posting name is a pseudonym, so
chances are she's not named Mary, and also not named Yugo.
On 12-01-17 11:02 AM, Chemical Engineer wrote:
Mark,
Thanks, I did not know that. Do you really think Mary's last name is Yugo?
I really do appreciate all of the great ideas exchanged in this forum. The
topic needs the focus.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
<[email protected]> wrote:
ChemE:
This forum really frowns on people who don't use their real names.
<snip>
-mark
