Jed,

I agree with most of what you say.  Please remember Rossi also claimed he
received a Chemical Engineering degree from a mail-order university
shutdown later for fraud that required students to "read magazines" to get
your degree.  So I am not sure he really is an engineer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_University

If that is all I had to do to become a licensed engineer or other
professional, then I would also be a doctor and a professional athlete
since I read sports illustrated and medical journals.



On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:

> This discussion about Rossi's 1 MW reactor is silly. The reactor has not
> shipped anywhere. He said it has not shipped, and it is obvious from the
> photos it has not.
>
> Previously he said he did ship it. Now he says he did not. He is
> contradicting himself. He often does that. I would not call it a "lie" in
> the usual sense because he makes no effort to cover up or explain the
> contradiction. He says "X" on Monday and "not X" on Tuesday as if it makes
> no difference. As if he never expected to be believed in the first
> instance, and he did not mean it. Truth is malleable in his imagination. He
> sees what is in his own mind more clearly than reality. Many people are
> like that, especially creative people such as artists and writers. It is a
> little unusual to meet an engineer like this, but there have been some.
> Tesla was a famous example.
>
> If Rossi's claims rested upon his personal credibility you would be crazy
> to believe any of them. Fortunately, other people have tested his machines
> and observed the factory heater; he has been independently replicated by
> Defkalion; and despite the problems with the tests he has done they are
> irrefutable.
>
> I have been dealing with Rossi for a couple of years now. One thing I know
> about him for sure: he often says things he does not mean. I would not say
> "you can't trust him." It goes deeper than. I would say you cannot be sure
> he is talking about reality rather than what he sees in his own
> imagination, or what he wishes were true. He is describing an idealized
> form of reality that he alone sees. He is also trying to manipulate people
> or fool them by saying outrageous things he does not really mean. He prides
> himself on his ability to manipulate people, including me, but actually he
> is inept at that. He upsets people instead of outwitting them. Again, that
> includes me personally.
>
> As I have said before, I have never seen him lie or exaggerate about
> technical aspects of his device.  Engineers are often like that. They are
> sometimes honest about engineering and blatant liars when it comes to
> paying their share of the bill at the restaurant, or having an affair with
> your wife. Perhaps he has lied about technical subjects but I have not
> caught him. However, when it comes to his business affairs, or arrangements
> that he and I were trying to make together, or what I have said and done,
> he has often lied. Sometimes so extravagantly and so obviously that I do
> not think he ever intended to fool anyone.
>
> People are complicated. Rossi is particularly complicated and
> contradictory. I would not want to do business with him, as I have often
> said.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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