do you mean to tell me that in all the collider data up to and including
the LHC is wrong?

vitrified? Are you claiming decay chains, cross section data or physics its
self is changing?

I just wanted to know moar(sic), asked some questions, and got answers.

>From two of the bigest names in cold fusion axil & rothwell.

Thank you for your time this weekend it was a pleasure.

I can’t help but detect some passive aggressive cynicism and patronizing in
your response, but giving you the benefit of the doubt, I will go the extra
mile in my response to you in this thread as follows:

Today, most worldwide national scientific funding, the effort that goes
along with including its associated tools and tables is directed toward the
understanding and advancement of high energy physics. The legions of
scientists that derive their livelihoods from this type of science and even
more interested camp following hobbyists and students see the universe
through the narrow purview of this billiard ball high energy perspective.



These multi-billion dollar systems include hot fusion represented by ITER
and like boondoggles, particle physics sanctioned by CERN and like science
religion based churches, and government sponsored entrenched and stagnant
nuclear physics where bombs, reactors, and laser based inertial confinement
fusion calcified by obscene levels of funding in the untold billions.



When these disciples of the high energy paradigm say that LENR is contrary
to the laws of physics, it is these high energy laws they have in mind and
in this context we frame all discussion; the laws they are comfortable
with; the ones they work so long and hard to learn in their text books and
spent so much to finance; the ones they use every day where they work and
know so well to the exclusion of all other alternative modes of thinking.



They see their reality as a world of billiard ball particles that bounce
around, ricocheting off of nuclei and always acting alone in absolute
isolation having never been affected by resonance and quantum mechanical
many bodied behaviors.



LENR on the other hand, is entirely dependent on resonance and the
resulting quantum mechanical coherence that this phenomenon generates.



Coherent particles live in a different extra dimensional world than their
deterministic Einsteinian billiard ball high energy brethren. The game that
coherent particles play is a different one; it is more rightly a cosmic
shell game.



We can never know under which shell a coherent particle will reenter our
world; it can appear anywhere at any instant when its time is right.



When a high energy particle is pointed to fly at a nucleus, the laws of
high energy physics rightly predicts that it will usually be deflected from
its mark by the Coulomb force.



But a coherent particle is a different beast entirely. It lives in a world
of many dementions called Hilbert space.



Hilbert spaces arise naturally and frequently in mathematics, physics, and
engineering, typically as infinite-dimensional function spaces. The
mathematical concept of a Hilbert space, named after David Hilbert,
generalizes the notion of Euclidean space. It extends the methods of vector
algebra and calculus from the two-dimensional Euclidean plane and
three-dimensional space to spaces with any finite or infinite number of
dimensions. A Hilbert space is an abstract vector space possessing the
structure of an inner product that allows length and angle to be measured.



Furthermore, Hilbert spaces are seas where mater waves roll. They are
required to be complete, a property that stipulates the existence of enough
limits in the space to allow the techniques of calculus to be used.


 When a matter wave reenters our world forsaking the anonymity of
superposition, it may reappear effortlessly, motionless, still and without
energy like a ghost anywhere in space/time including inside that hard to
penetrate nucleus.


The nickel nucleus where this proton pair reenters are world reorganizes in
a whisper like a sleepwalker hardly knowing what has just happened to it.



When the atoms in the neighborhood of this ghostly rematerialization are
densely packed together like in a metal lattice, the chances are good that
these erstwhile ghost wave/particles will fuse with some random lattice
nucleus.





The high energy acolytes just can’t accept this experimentally demonstrated
quantum mechanical reality as a real law of nature.



We who are interested in the wonders of condensed matter and its hand
maiden, quantum mechanics must by necessity be patient. We will just have
to grin and bear the abuse and the snide remarks. We will hunker down and
await that first astonishing demo which none can deny; we will await the
rebirth of the intellectual tolerance of the new scientific Renaissance
where the narrow minded fall from authority; like the Illuminati of old
Galileo, the acolytes of LENR will endure our trials until the time of the
open minded is again reborn anew and is once again forefront in the affairs
of men.


On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:02 PM, thorium breeder
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On 1/21/12, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The neutron based ENDF cross sections you are familiar with is not
> > applicable to proton pair entanglement based tunneling.
> >
> > This is a new area of nuclear physics and quantum mechanics that is just
> > being explored.
> >
> do you mean to tell me that in all the collider data up to and
> including the LHC is wrong?
>
> > Tragically, the technology and attitudes currently vitrified in nuclear
> > physics will absolutely exclude and prevent exploration of any new ideas
> > including proton based fusion and thorium breeders.
> >
> vitrified? Are you claiming decay chains, cross section data or
> physics its self is changing?
>
> > As a proponent of an outlayer technology, your closed minded attitude is
> > surprising.
> >
> > One should always treat the ideas of others as one themselves wish their
> > ideas to be treated.
> >
>
> I just wanted to know moar, asked some questions, and got answers.
> From two of the bigest names in cold fusion axil & rothwell.
> Thank you for your time this weekend it was a pleasure.
>
>

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