do you mean to tell me that in all the collider data up to and including the LHC is wrong?
vitrified? Are you claiming decay chains, cross section data or physics its self is changing? I just wanted to know moar(sic), asked some questions, and got answers. >From two of the bigest names in cold fusion axil & rothwell. Thank you for your time this weekend it was a pleasure. I can’t help but detect some passive aggressive cynicism and patronizing in your response, but giving you the benefit of the doubt, I will go the extra mile in my response to you in this thread as follows: Today, most worldwide national scientific funding, the effort that goes along with including its associated tools and tables is directed toward the understanding and advancement of high energy physics. The legions of scientists that derive their livelihoods from this type of science and even more interested camp following hobbyists and students see the universe through the narrow purview of this billiard ball high energy perspective. These multi-billion dollar systems include hot fusion represented by ITER and like boondoggles, particle physics sanctioned by CERN and like science religion based churches, and government sponsored entrenched and stagnant nuclear physics where bombs, reactors, and laser based inertial confinement fusion calcified by obscene levels of funding in the untold billions. When these disciples of the high energy paradigm say that LENR is contrary to the laws of physics, it is these high energy laws they have in mind and in this context we frame all discussion; the laws they are comfortable with; the ones they work so long and hard to learn in their text books and spent so much to finance; the ones they use every day where they work and know so well to the exclusion of all other alternative modes of thinking. They see their reality as a world of billiard ball particles that bounce around, ricocheting off of nuclei and always acting alone in absolute isolation having never been affected by resonance and quantum mechanical many bodied behaviors. LENR on the other hand, is entirely dependent on resonance and the resulting quantum mechanical coherence that this phenomenon generates. Coherent particles live in a different extra dimensional world than their deterministic Einsteinian billiard ball high energy brethren. The game that coherent particles play is a different one; it is more rightly a cosmic shell game. We can never know under which shell a coherent particle will reenter our world; it can appear anywhere at any instant when its time is right. When a high energy particle is pointed to fly at a nucleus, the laws of high energy physics rightly predicts that it will usually be deflected from its mark by the Coulomb force. But a coherent particle is a different beast entirely. It lives in a world of many dementions called Hilbert space. Hilbert spaces arise naturally and frequently in mathematics, physics, and engineering, typically as infinite-dimensional function spaces. The mathematical concept of a Hilbert space, named after David Hilbert, generalizes the notion of Euclidean space. It extends the methods of vector algebra and calculus from the two-dimensional Euclidean plane and three-dimensional space to spaces with any finite or infinite number of dimensions. A Hilbert space is an abstract vector space possessing the structure of an inner product that allows length and angle to be measured. Furthermore, Hilbert spaces are seas where mater waves roll. They are required to be complete, a property that stipulates the existence of enough limits in the space to allow the techniques of calculus to be used. When a matter wave reenters our world forsaking the anonymity of superposition, it may reappear effortlessly, motionless, still and without energy like a ghost anywhere in space/time including inside that hard to penetrate nucleus. The nickel nucleus where this proton pair reenters are world reorganizes in a whisper like a sleepwalker hardly knowing what has just happened to it. When the atoms in the neighborhood of this ghostly rematerialization are densely packed together like in a metal lattice, the chances are good that these erstwhile ghost wave/particles will fuse with some random lattice nucleus. The high energy acolytes just can’t accept this experimentally demonstrated quantum mechanical reality as a real law of nature. We who are interested in the wonders of condensed matter and its hand maiden, quantum mechanics must by necessity be patient. We will just have to grin and bear the abuse and the snide remarks. We will hunker down and await that first astonishing demo which none can deny; we will await the rebirth of the intellectual tolerance of the new scientific Renaissance where the narrow minded fall from authority; like the Illuminati of old Galileo, the acolytes of LENR will endure our trials until the time of the open minded is again reborn anew and is once again forefront in the affairs of men. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:02 PM, thorium breeder <[email protected]>wrote: > On 1/21/12, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > > The neutron based ENDF cross sections you are familiar with is not > > applicable to proton pair entanglement based tunneling. > > > > This is a new area of nuclear physics and quantum mechanics that is just > > being explored. > > > do you mean to tell me that in all the collider data up to and > including the LHC is wrong? > > > Tragically, the technology and attitudes currently vitrified in nuclear > > physics will absolutely exclude and prevent exploration of any new ideas > > including proton based fusion and thorium breeders. > > > vitrified? Are you claiming decay chains, cross section data or > physics its self is changing? > > > As a proponent of an outlayer technology, your closed minded attitude is > > surprising. > > > > One should always treat the ideas of others as one themselves wish their > > ideas to be treated. > > > > I just wanted to know moar, asked some questions, and got answers. > From two of the bigest names in cold fusion axil & rothwell. > Thank you for your time this weekend it was a pleasure. > >

