Shaun Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Show me one test where Rossi did not run the event and truly allowed > independent testers (NOT merely invited observers) to arrange, fit out and > do the tests the way they determined they needed to be done? > I can't. The people who have done these tests do not want me to upload the results to LENR-CANR.org. They have discussed them at various times. Mike McKubre showed a small sample of data from one group, in his slides here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/McKubreMCHwhathappen.pdf I have heard from 2 other groups that tested independently. As I noted here in December, I also heard from a group visiting Defkalion, where they have independently replicated. Perhaps you do not believe me, or you do not believe my sources. In that case, the conversation has no place to go. There is nothing more to be said. Take what I say or leave it. > As far as I know this has NEVER been done. Rossi was always in control. As far as you know, yes, but I know somewhat more than you do. > If you have data that is truly independent, why has it not been published? Because the people who revealed it to me asked me not to publish it. They want to keep it secret for reasons relating to business, money, and the politics of cold fusion. Many, many cold fusion results have been kept secret over the years. Mainly because people who reveal positive results are likely to have their lives and careers destroyed. Their reputations are dragged through the mud; members of Congress demand their tax returns; they are fired or reassigned to menial jobs; and they are called lunatics and criminals in the mass media. Those are good reasons for not going public with results! You may not believe my sources, but you can easily verify that people who publish positive results are torn to shreds. There are many examples in the mass media and in the archives at LENR-CANR.org. People such as Robert Park who do this go around bragging about it. This is not secret suppression; it is bold and public. These people sincerely believe they are combating fraud and lunacy, and preserving the Honor of Science, so they have no reason to hide their activities. (Park is only one of many. I cite him because he is well known. There are dozens of others, such as Gai, who well known to everyone in this field.) > Probably because it does not exist or the people that did the tests do not > want to go public, which if that is the reason is an even bigger worry. They definitely do not want to go public, as I have said many times. It is nothing to worry about. As I said, this has often happened in cold fusion. Either way there is NO independent data on any Ecat that I can find. That is correct. You can't find the data, because the people who do the tests do not want the world to know what they are up to. I know why they are keeping a low profile. I know who is trying to stop them. I know what will happen to them if they go public prematurely. I would do the same thing if I were in their shoes. Probably, you would too, assuming you have a gram of common sense and you want to keep your job. > Only data from Rossi orchestrated demonstrations. That is incorrect, as I said. - Jed
