Shaun, You do realize that the RFG was not used in the first several E-Cat demos, aren't you? Oh, that's right, how could you??? Since you just swooped in and started barfing your accusations and speculations all over the place before doing your homework! Not unlike Mary, but at least she is a bit more cautious in how she does it so she can maintain at least some modicum of credibility.
The issue of high-frequency components not being picked up by certain test instruments is well known by this Forum's members, and has been mentioned loooong ago; many members in this forum have considerable expertise with electronics, test equipment and a good grounding in physics. I personally have several pieces of high-end test equipment, including an o'scope that has a 600Mhz bandwidth... you do know what that is, don't you??? Many Vortex members were aware of the issue that hi-freq components could cause lower than actual power measurements long before F&P's announcement of Cold Fusion in 1989. Your *suggestion* as to how Rossi might have fed power to the E-Cat, is ONLY a POSSIBILITY. For some reason, your distorted way of thinking IMMEDIATELY DRAWS THE CONCLUSION THAT THAT IS THE ONLY POSSIBILITY, AND THEREFORE MUST BE THE CASE... That is pathological, plain and simple. The only way to convert a possibility into fact is to measure it with the proper instruments... until that is done, it is only ONE possibility out of two or more. The only rational thing to do when faced with the situation we have is to simply wait it out and see what happens... which is pretty much what the consensus was by mid-year. -m -----Original Message----- From: Shaun Taylor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi lies again to cover his data fraud On 23/01/2012 6:14 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: > > Shaun, you are in error. I have examined your pictures and like Mary, > I do not see the significance of the goop you are referring to. BUT ... > For the sake of discussion, I accept your premise that the goop was > placed there so that Tout can be higher than it would have been. First point, Jed was not there. Ok so lets move forward on the assumption Rossi had placed the sensor to generate a higher than reality Tout. As the delta T was at best 10 deg C, a bias of 6 or 7 deg C would say there was no excess during the power applied phase. Then the heaters were "disconnected" and the RFG was engaged. Here I see 2 avenues to apply power during the self sustain mode. Via the RFG leads which could be a high DC voltage with a small AC ripple. This would show up on a AC amp meter as a small current with the DC supplying the secret heating. This job could be split between the Small Blue Box (SBB) AC heater excitation. It could also generate a DC output with a small AC ripple. It amazes me with all the brains in that room and with the future of LENR credibility on the line, NO ONE brought a portable digital oscilloscope and looked at what the RFG and the SBB were ACTUALLY generating. Digital meters are well known to under report current and voltage from complex non sinusoidal wave shapes. But instead of doing proper checking on what was ACTUALLY being fed into the Ecat, they relied on Rossi. Well they got taken for a ride. Shaun
