Man began using fire/combustion approx. 46,000 years ago and we are still
using combustion as our primary energy source.  I think you should be
patient and wait a few more weeks...

The frustration from Rossi is "Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing"

Let's continue to hope we get something.  I have hopes that DGT will
present independent results over the next few weeks/months.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Jarold McWilliams <[email protected]>wrote:

> I have been very patient with all of this.  I was willing to wait until
> March 31, and even then I wouldn't consider it 100% fraud with no tests.
>  Rossi is a liar if he doesn't even look into conducting a test with Smith,
> and there is no reason to believe anything he says with no proof.
>
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Robert Leguillon wrote:
>
> From Jarold:
> /snip/
> "and what does that say about Defkalion who is only in the LENR business
> because of Rossi.  If no valid tests are performed by either group by March
> 31, this whole thing is most likely a fraud."
> /snip/
>
> "Defkalion GT was not invited and did not participate officially in any
> public demonstration nor the preparation of any other third party's public
> event related to LENR devises [sic], since 17th of January 2011." (
> http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=258&p=3300#p3300
> )
> When Rossi allegedly failed to meet contractual requirements, Defkalion
> went silent.  As the relationship was severed, between July to October of
> 2011, they weren't releasing any information.  These are the expected
> actions of someone reassessing their lot.
> The impression that I get (baseless speculation) is that Rossi *may* have
> misled Defkalion as to his success with Ni-H, and his alleged catalyst.
> But, possibly, his core idea of using micro/nano nickel was indeed a
> breakthrough.  When Defkalion pushed forward on their own, they may have
> found a way to get reliable, controllable, excess heat.
> Their silence-then-reemergence is interesting.  Where Rossi's past may be
> entirely consistent with that of someone profiting from outrageous claims,
> the named Defkalion directors do not strike me as a group of
> con-artists.  If the scenario really were that they were "victims of a
> con", what are the odds that they could all be brought on board to
> perpetuate the scam?  These are former chairmen, presidents, and even an
> ambassador.
>
> Aside from a few photos/videos, there has been no evidence that Defkalion
> does, or does not have the technology.  Inviting people inside, and
> promising upcoming independent testing, are great signs that they believe
> they do.  It is wrong to place arbitrary time frames on what appears to
> be a more reasoned approach.  They are not obligated to provide us with
> anything, but they seem to understand that there is a wall of doubt to
> overcome.  Moreover, they finally seem ready to address those doubts.
> They've even claimed that most of third party tests will be streamed on the
> Internet, if the testers agree (
> http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=926&start=200
> ).
>
> Patience.
>
> R.L.
>
>
>

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