Good questions Bob, I have asked Axil similar but now another thought occurs to 
me regarding the spatial measurements of Rydberg atoms... how and with what 
metrics were these measurements determined. I still prefer the inverse Rydberg 
state for the hydrino inside cavities but am less opposed to a  Rydberg state 
on the surface areas than previously. The paper by Naudts that allows for the 
existence of the hydrino as relativistic hydrogen led me to a relativistic 
interpretation for Casimir effect - I failed to give Axil the same 
consideration regarding Rydberg atoms in this environment which is to say that 
just as the hydrino can be relativistic so too can the Rydberg atoms...meaning 
that only their equivalent mass gets larger but they appear to shrink for the 
same reason a spaceship approaching C appears to shrink from our perspective. 
It doesn't matter if the acceleration is positive or negative relative to the 
observer the remote object always shrinks and if the acceleration is 
"equivalent" the need for spatial displacement inside the bulk material is 
mitigated. All this to say that Rydberg atoms could be temporally displaced in 
equal measure like the hydrino [inverse Rydberg] and would make more sense than 
Casimir effect just enabling one species in favor of another, more likely a 
segregation occurs due to the geometry where the isotropy normally not broken 
above the plank level can now be bundled into larger opposing regions big 
enough for atoms and molecules of gas to exploit. Instead of stretching across 
the lattice like you suggest they would be time dilated from our perspective 
while neither species ever occurs from their own local perspective and they 
simply see themselves as hydrogen.
Fran

From: Bob Higgins [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol

Nice posts on the Rydberg effects, Axil.  I like reading them.  Please continue 
posting them.  But, I am confused.  Could you can help me understand these 
questions:

Rydberg hydrogen has a very loosely bound electron.  How would these Rydberg 
electrons survive high temperature phonon collisions without the atom becoming 
ionized and as a result breaking up the condensate?

With such large orbitals as Rydberg electrons occupy, how can such a phenomenon 
be considered inside a nickel lattice?  The electron orbitals would extend 
greater than the nickel lattice spacing.  Other condensates are possible, but 
why would you think these are Rydberg?  While we know that the LENR appears to 
happen at the surface, and it also appears to require support from within the 
lattice (loading) - so it sounds like some kind of condensate effect is needed 
within the lattice.

In the NanoSpire case, it is not clear how the H-O-H-O- crystals that form are 
Rydberg.  What evidence supports this?  They may be some kind of condensate, 
but not necessarily Rydberg.

The large dipole moments you describe would certainly make it easy for the 
Rydberg atoms to couple to other atoms electronically and form a condensate 
from that coupling.  However, I don't see how that strong dipole provides 
support for the charge evidence that you described from NanoSpire.  Can you 
explain that a little more?

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Axil Axil 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol

This post is third in the series on Rydberg matter which includes as follows:

Cold Fusion Magic Dust

Rydberg matter and cavitation

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