No one has a complete picture of what Chan/Phen does but I seriously doubt they're legit.
In Chan/Phen's setup, they put their powder into a 1/4" tube under a propane environment. They then slide it inside a 1" tube with a magnet wire coil 1000' in length or so. He then subjects the coil to RF. As someone correctly pointed out to me, when I was planning a similar setup, that such an RF coil setup would only be usable up to probabaly 200 Mhz. A 1000' coil of magnet wire would have sufficient inductance to essentially be useless at any higher RF frequency. 200 Mhz is way too low from the suspected resonance frequency of Hydrogen which many suspect is 1420 Mhz (or 1.2735 Ghz - Don't ask me where I got this number.) I suspect what happens is the RF is heating the propane inside his tube enough to react with some of his elements. This reaction appears to be intense enough to initiate a low grade reaction in his mineral oil bath to generate low grade heat at 200C. I don't believe Chan/Phen has an LENR reaction. I suspect it is chemical. I do not believe the trick is in some kind of resonance reaction induced by RF. I believe the secret is in some kind of Rydberg matter reaction as Axil has speculated. So, what is the best most efficient way to create Rydberg matter? I believe it is through the application and control of sparks. Each spark ionizes the hydrogen, nickel and other stuff in your reactor. Allow this ionized matter to cool down sufficiently and condense into Rydberg matter instead of reverting back to its ordinary gaseous or solid form by controlling the amount of your sparking. The trick I think is to control this temperature so that Rydberg matter are created. At just the right temperature, Ionized matter would condense into Rydberg matter. Create an environment where your reactor insides are teaming with tons of Rydberg matter and you increase the chances of a nuclei fusion as Axil has speculated. One thing to note is that for you to have a good number of Rydberg matter created, your reactor environment must be providing sufficient turbulence. If not, you will simply be sparking the same powder molecules over and over again. Not only will you destroy the Rydberg matter that have been created, you will also melt your Ni powder. So, like I said, sparking with turbelence is the key. Sparks are very efficient ways of creating Ionized matter. In a hydrogen gas environment, about 30-40% of the energy goes into ionizing the hydrogen instead of simply bulk heating it. Bulk heating the gas and powder I think is counter productive. So, sparks may be the secret. ----- Original Message ----- From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol Jojo, Is this what Phen in ecatbuilder. com/catalyst/ was doing, using MgH2 as a proton source? Spark = plasma and vortex http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg62495.html makes note of that. Warm Regards, Reality Jojo Jaro wrote: Axil, Excellent series of posts on Rydberg Matter. Very informative. Thanks. I now have a better understanding. My question centers on speculation about how Rossi might be creating Rydberg matter of Cesium or Potassium as you speculate. Tell me if my speculation makes sense. In Rossi's earlier reactor design, I speculate he had a cylindrical reactor with a wire in the middle which he subjects to high voltage. The high voltage creates sparks. The high voltage may have been applied at a specific frequency. I suspect the high voltage applied at just the right frequency would create tons of and tons of Rydberg matter via sparking. I am thinking that if the frequency were too low, there would not be enough Rydberg matter created. If the frequency were too high, it would possibly create a too high localized temperature to "cook" and melt the nickel powder rendering its nanostructures inert thereby killing the LENR reactions. I'm thinking the trick is to find out the right amount of sparking - enough to create tons of Rydberg matter but not too much to melt the nickel nanostructures. It would also be important to design the heat and convective flow inside the reactor to properly distribute the heat. With this cylindrical setup, the nickel powder would be "bunching" at the bottom of the cylindrical reactor. Applying repeated sparking onto this pile would increase the chances of melting the nickel nanostructure due to increased localized high temperatures due to sparking. This would explain Rossi's quiescence problem. He can only apply sparks for so long till the Ni powders would melt. To solve this quiescense problem, Rossi had to figure out how to distribute the sparks over a wider area - basically he has to spread the nickel powder. I believe this is what prompted Rossi to design his "FAT Cat" design. If I remember correctly, his home E-Cat was shaped like a laptop with the reactor itself being only 20x20x1 cm in dimensions. This is essentially two metal plates separated by a thin layer of pressurized hydrogen. The nickel is spread out thinly over the surface of the plate. He then subjects the plates to high voltage to create sparks. He controls the amount of sparks by varying the frequency of the high voltage. If he needs more reaction, he increases the frequency of the sparks creating more Rydberg matter to catalyze more reactions. If he lowers the amount of sparks, he lowers the reaction rate. Spreading the Ni powder would also have the effect of spreading the heat thereby minimizing the chances of too high localized temperatures. In DGT's design, they have cylindrical reactors machined from a big block of steel. I believe they would then put a wire in the middle just like Rossi's original design. (I believe that the purpose of the "window" in DGT's test reactors is to observe the sparks during testing.) DGT minimized the quiescene problem by using Ni sparingly and spreading it out over a longer cylindrical reactor. Rossi's cylindrical reactor was short and fat, hence his Ni powder would be bunched up in the bottom. DGT's cylindrical design was longer and thinner, thereby spreading the Ni powder, minimizing quiescense as they claimed. To me this appears to be evident. I believe part of the electronics in Rossi's blue control box is electronics for controlling the sparking rate, which he calls "RF". So basically, I think you may be right about Rydberg matter. I think the strategy is to design a reactor that would subject the Ni and catalyst mix to sparks promoting the creation of Rydberg matter. Then make sure that there is sufficient turbulence inside the rreactor to agitate and blow the powder all over thereby minimizing the chances of "cooking" the powder while simultaneously increasing the chances of a chance encounter between the Rydberg matter catalyst and the Ni nuclei. So, essentially, I think the secret is sparks with lots of turbulent mixing. I have designed a new reactor setup to try out these ideas. I will have a horizontal cylindrical reactor with a "stripped" spark plug electrode as the high voltage source. I will then drive this spark plug with an Ignition coil actuated by a Power MOSFET driven by the PWM output of my MF-28 data acquisition module. I will program the sparking frequency by controlling the rate of PWM output. (Later on, I will program a feedback mechanism to lower the sparking rate if the temperature gets too high.) The trick would then be to find the right amount of sparking for the highest amount of heat production. To increase chances of success, I will be including all elements suggested as catalyst - ie iron, carbon, copper, tungsten, sodium, potassium and cesium, although cesium might be harder to acquire. What do you think of my plan? Once again, thanks for sharing your theoretical understanding so that we engineers can build and do the experiments. Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol Hi Bob, Much thanks for your interest in this post. In order to answer your question properly, it’s going to take some time… so be patient. I will respond in a series of posts. Post #1 Bob Higgins asked: “ Rydberg hydrogen has a very loosely bound electron”. Axil answers: Besides hydrogen, many other elements and even various chemical compounds can take the form of Rydberg matter. For example in the Rossi reactor, I now suspect that the ‘secret sauce’ that Rossi tells us catalyzes his reaction is cesium in the form of Rydberg matter. I say this because of the 400C internal operating temperature range that Rossi says his reactor operates at. If this internal operating temperature is actually 500C, then the reactor may be hot enough for his secret sauce to be potassium based Rydberg matter. Bob Higgins asked: “With such large orbitals as Rydberg electrons occupy, how can such a phenomenon be considered inside a nickel lattice?” Axil answers: This Rydberg matter never gets inside the lattice of the micro powder. This complex crystal can grow very large (1). It sits on the surface of the pile of micro-powder where under the influence of its strong dipole moment, coherent electrostatic radiation of just the right frequency lowers the coulomb barrier of the nickel nuclei. Because this is an electrostatically mediated reaction, only the surface of the nickel micro-grain is affected. The electromagnetic field cannot penetrate inside the nickel grain. But this field does penetrate deeply in and among the various grains of the pile of powder to generate a maximized reaction with every grain contributing. The electrostatic radiation of this dipole moment catalyzes the fusion reaction. In detail, this strong dipole moment lowers this coulomb barrier of the nuclei of the nickel just enough to allow a entangled proton cooper pair to tunnel inside the nickel nucleus, but not enough to allow the nickel atoms of the lattice to fuse. Micro powder allows for a large surface area relative to the total volume of nickel. More surface area allows for more cold fusion reaction. This is why the use of micro powder is a breakthrough in cold fusion technology. On page 7 of the reference, this aspect of the experiment is revealing: “In order to complete the story of transformation, we should consider this problem: where does the transformation take place, either throughout the whole space of the explosion chamber or only in the plasma channel? To answer this question, we carried out experiments with uranium salts (uranyl sulfate, UO2SO4) [3].” The answer that they found was as follows: throughout the whole space of the explosion chamber. This is to be expected because the coherent dipole moment of Rydberg matter is extremely strong and long ranged. It is like an electromagnetic laser beam that can exert its influence over a distance of centimeters. (1) LeClair said he saw the size of one of his crystals as large as a few centimeters. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> wrote: Nice posts on the Rydberg effects, Axil. I like reading them. Please continue posting them. But, I am confused. Could you can help me understand these questions: Rydberg hydrogen has a very loosely bound electron. How would these Rydberg electrons survive high temperature phonon collisions without the atom becoming ionized and as a result breaking up the condensate? With such large orbitals as Rydberg electrons occupy, how can such a phenomenon be considered inside a nickel lattice? The electron orbitals would extend greater than the nickel lattice spacing. Other condensates are possible, but why would you think these are Rydberg? While we know that the LENR appears to happen at the surface, and it also appears to require support from within the lattice (loading) - so it sounds like some kind of condensate effect is needed within the lattice. In the NanoSpire case, it is not clear how the H-O-H-O- crystals that form are Rydberg. What evidence supports this? They may be some kind of condensate, but not necessarily Rydberg. The large dipole moments you describe would certainly make it easy for the Rydberg atoms to couple to other atoms electronically and form a condensate from that coupling. However, I don't see how that strong dipole provides support for the charge evidence that you described from NanoSpire. Can you explain that a little more? On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol This post is third in the series on Rydberg matter which includes as follows: Cold Fusion Magic Dust Rydberg matter and cavitation
