David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: Jed, I know it is not a heat pump. >
Then why did you bring up that subject? Do you not understand that a heat pump moves heat, and must cool down a body as much as it heats up another body? I do not understand why you mentioned heat pumps and their highest COP if you know that is not relevant. People often do say that cold fusion devices might be heat pumps. These people are always wrong, for the reasons I gave. If you understand these reasons why did you confuse the issue by saying this? > The operation of the ECAT after death needs to be extended indefinitely > (or at least for days) in order to prove beyond doubt that it is possible. > No, it does not. Given these materials, the weight and surface area of the device, the surface temperature and the cooling curves, maintaining a stable high temperature for 1 hour proves the issue beyond any rational doubt. An object with that surface area at that temperature is producing kilowatts of heat. After an hour the gadget would be lukewarm and after 4 hours it would be stone cold with any conventional source of stored heat or chemical heat. You do not need any instruments to be sure of this. Direct sensation of the heat and first principle physics are all the proof anyone can ask for. Running for several days or several years would not prove anything that 1 hour does not already prove. People who demand several days of operation move the goal posts down the field, out of the stadium, and into the next county. It is like demanding that researchers sell commercial products before you believe the effect is real. As we all know, some skeptics have made that demand. With that we move from rational, science-based discussion to never-never land. > Please note that this topic is mainly concerning Thane Heins and his > device and the Rossi discussion is a minor point of consideration. No one > has ever believed that Rossi is a heat pump designer! > Again I ask: why did you talk about heat pumps if you know this? What was your point? I am asking seriously. Frankly, I consider it disruptive and kind of strange that someone who understands Carnot's law would mention heat pumps in this discussion. Why?!? Do you suspect the Thane Heins device is a heat pump? You mentioned Rossi specifically. - Jed
