Based on evidence, the neutron is believed to be comprised of positive core surrounded by a negative shell: http://www.terra.es/personal/gsardin/news13.htm
However in recent years there is evidence which suggests the neutron is comprised of three layers: a central negative core which is surrounded by a layer of positive charge which in turn is surrounded by an exterior negative shell. Harry On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:56 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > I guess one could look at a neutron as being similar to a proton plus an > electron but I am not sure that the exact analogy holds up under scrutiny. > For one thing, when a neutron decays you get more out of it than the > electron and proton. There is a pesky antineutrino and a substantial amount > of energy released. > > The kinetic energy of a mass is equal to Mass * Velocity * Velocity /2. If > you set the energy of an electron and a proton to be equal and solve for the > velocity ratio you obtain the inverse square root of the mass ratio. I am > neglecting relativistic effects since we are speaking of moderate > velocities. > > You could get a fairly close idea of the proton velocity with temperature as > you suggest by comparing it to a neutron, but I think the solution to the > math above would be easier. > > One interesting point to consider is the strange energy behavior of a proton > and electron combination. If they are in free space they find each other > and radiate a significant amount of energy until the ground energy state is > obtained. Even though the two are beginning to look like a neutron, energy > is released into space. The hydrino hypothesis suggests that a lot more > energy can be obtained by allowing the electron to move closer to the > proton. If we continue in this manner, why does energy not be released the > closer you bring the two components together? And to make manners worse, > the neutron has more mass by a significant margin as compared to these two > major constituents. Perhaps a neutron is much more complex than it > appears. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2012 3:07 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR) > > To get a idea about the speed of the proton, it might be possible to make a > comparison with the speed of the neutron at various temperature. This might > be OK because the proton and the neutron are about the same size and weight. > The neutron is just a proton and an electron together…Right! > > 2000K – hot - 7060 meters/second > 330K – room temperature- 2870 M/S > 20K – Real cold - 706 M/S > > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:46 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: >> >> Robin, I would think the velocity of the proton of the same energy as >> compared to an electron would be the square root of 2000 or 45 times slower >> due to the velocity squared relationship. Now, if the proton slows down >> much faster than the electron then the deceleration would be a lot greater. >> Perhaps 10 times greater? If you factor this into account then the >> radiation levels of the two particles are relatively close. What do you >> think? >> >> Dave >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mixent <mix...@bigpond.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:35 am >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR) >> >> In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:12:10 -0400 >> (EDT): >> Hi, >> [snip] >> > >> >I have long wondered whether or not protons generate bremsstrahlung >> > radiation >> in the same manner as electrons. It seems that the charge is responsible >> for >> the radiation and not the mass unless you are suggesting that the slower >> rate of >> deceleration of a proton versus and electron as it travels through matter >> is the >> reason. >> >> Precisely. Furthermore the actual velocity of a proton is about 2000 times >> lower >> than that of an electron of the same energy (relativistic considerations >> aside). >> >> >> >Would the same deceleration rate for either particle generate the same >> radiation effect? >> >> I suspect so. >> >> > >> >The flip side of this coin is that the proton would travel proportionally >> further as a result of the lower deceleration rate. >> >> Actually, I don't think they travel as far. I suspect this is because they >> are >> much slower, and consequently have more time to interact with the >> electrons of >> the atoms they pass through than an electron of equivalent energy. Alpha >> particles have even shorter trajectories. >> Besides, the positively charged particles tend to attract the electrons of >> other >> atoms, dragging them away from their parent atoms, whereas a fast electron >> pushes other electrons away, making them more inclined to simply move over >> a >> little rather then get stripped from their parent atom. >> This means that fast electrons don't get as many opportunities to dispose >> of >> their energy and hence travel farther. >> [snip] >> Regards, >> >> Robin van Spaandonk >> >> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> >
