David, I agree that this is could be an elaborate PR stunt, and little more. That would be true, even if they nailed it. So what ? How can one justify the enormous expense? It does zero for practical solutions to the energy crisis.
The prima donnas at CERN are extremely well-paid and are highly motivated financially to keep the Euros flowing in a time of cutbacks for other science programs. The Higgs search is a boondoggle of gigantic proportions; and naming it the "god particle" is emblematic of the lengths they will go to for greed, rather than science... or to be fair: for greed with some arguable science on the side. That money could be better spent elsewhere. LENR comes to mind. However, as for the science, and as for what the geniuses may have missed in the rush to judgment (you mentioned "another particle" which could be confused with this discovery), consider this... whatever was found weighs-in at about 125 GeV or giga-electronvolts, according to reports. Funny, that figure was mentioned but the commentators did not follow up on the implications. There are indeed possible implications for LENR and energy anomalies in general. If you look at the periodic table for nuclei in that mass-energy range, you find the interesting situation with elements 52 and 53, and possible 54. These would be tellurium, iodine and xenon. Why is iodine lighter than tellurium, when it has a higher Z? This seldom happens in the periodic table (twice, I think). Did we not determine previously here that the only other example in the periodic table was Nickel !?! (i.e. Ni is lower in a.m.u than Cobalt yet has higher Z. This "could be" coincidental for sure, but it is a bit curious, due to other considerations including our focus on Ni-H. All of the these three elements, tellurium, iodine and xenon, have in fact been mentioned as energy anomalies over the years in one form or another - far in excess of similar elements. There is compelling information on electrical discharge anomalies in Xenon, (see http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg58918.html for a recent Xe claim but there are others including Papp and Gray). There is plenty of detail on energy anomalies in the vortex archives on all of these three elements. But having the same mass as the putative boson may be only coincidental, admittedly ... unless you believe in quantum mechanics taken to its full extreme .... From: David Roberson The news is buzzing with the CERN announcement of the discovery of a new boson. They are careful not to state that the Higgs has been found at this time. How would they actually know that this is the Higgs when there are no known particles that are associated with the force of gravity that I am aware of? Obviously it is not possible to see any gravitation effects from such a massive particle in the short time of its existence. And, it seems to me that the actual mass has been unknown for a long time and seems to be changing every time I read about what is expected. Are they jumping the gun in this case to get publicity? In my estimate it is more likely that they have found some other type of particle that might even be more interesting than the Higgs. Does anyone share my question about this discovery? Dave
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