This is really unhelpful but I offer it anyway: In my youth I came across spark plugs being used as cheap, rugged, hermetic, high voltage power leads into a vacuum chamber - or was it a pressure vessel - whatever... The spark end was bent straight, welded to a wire.

Ol' Bab


On 7/15/2012 12:48 PM, Bob Higgins wrote:
There was no attempt at misdirection on my part - I was simply recounting what I was told at W&M. However, I don't believe that the person who told me had direct first-hand knowledge, and while he may have been mistaken, I don't think he was intentionally trying to mislead me.

At first, I didn't think the statement made much sense - what would glow plugs be used for in a situation where there is no combustion? But, and I have no idea what devices are available ...

Is it possible that a "glow plug" may exist that could be used as a filament for electron discharge as in an electron tube? Such a glow plug might still need the ceramic HV insulation. Electron discharge in the chamber would be more "active" in the cell than just sparking a spark plug.

I thought I would post it for comment.

Bob

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com <mailto:jth...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

    Let's put this misdirection attempt to rest once and for all.
    A glow plug requires low voltage to heat. (Usually between a few
    volts to 6 volts.)   A glow plug does not require a tall ceramic
    insulatior. A glow plug has a long elongated cylinderical tube
    that contains the heating element inside.  The pictures Terry
    posted from Amazon are glow plugs.
    A spark plug requires a tall insulator to prevent volatage leakage
    since it is fired using high voltages.  A spark plug will have a
    long threaded part (f it is long reach), and a small gap at the end.
    The picture in DGT document is a spark plug. Any mechanic Joe blow
    will tell you that. Notice the tall ceramic insulator.
    I wonder what motivation people have in spreading this
    misdirection?  Unbelievable how people can lie to your face
    nowadays and keep it cool.  Unbelievable.
    BTW, a spark plug fired at 300 hz (18,000 RPM) will draw less than
    100 watts.  COP is not an issue if sparks are used.
    Jojo

        ----- Original Message -----
        *From:* Alain Sepeda <mailto:alain.sep...@gmail.com>
        *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
        *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:59 PM
        *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Harping on the Right Things!

        no spark gap on the photo, seems right.

        whether a glow or spark plug is a very important detail

        if a spark plug is needed, there is a needed quantity of
        energy that have to be "electric", and this limit the COP.
        if only heat is used, that mean that the reactor itself, or
        another reactor, can provide the heat, so the COP can have no
        limit else the insulation and controllability

        2012/7/15 Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com
        <mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>>

            Doesn't look like glow plugs:

            http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n%3A15729261&page=1





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Regards,
Bob Higgins



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