Alain wrote:

"since energy is $5-7Tn and GDP is $70Tn, the potential saving on energy is
around 10%"

"maybe I miss the point?"

Did you consider the following???

 

Energy is to economies as physics is to science. it is FUNDAMENTAL, and
everything is built on top of it.  A significant change to a fundamental
will propagate to anything built using that fundamental.

 

*If* LENR is able to deliver very cheap energy, then the cost of ALL
PRODUCTS AND SERVICES will also go down. manufacturing requires ENERGY,
moving those manufactured products to the end consumer (i.e.,
transportation) requires ENERGY (gas/diesel).  If competition is allowed to
take its course, the cost of nearly everything will come down.  But the
ramifications of this are much more complex, and the reality of how this
would affect different aspects of life are hard to predict. my attitude at
this point is that much disruption will happen in the short term, but long
term the average person will be much better off. we are the most adaptable
species on the planet, and we will adapt; economies will adapt; financial
markets will adapt.  

-Mark

 

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just to guive data
I've made some quick computation
http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3
<http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27&p=1139#p1139>
&t=27&p=1139#p1139

since energy is $5-7Tn and GDP is $70Tn, the potential saving on energy is
around 10%,
that you can interpret as productivity increase.
The replacement of world energy source is estimated around 15% of GDP, that
can easily be self-financed by the saving.
Energy is not free, but few maintenance, ridiculous matter, and some
investment.

It will be important shock, but not so huge. at most 10%

of course you can expect that the technology will become even cheaper, but
even if LENR get to zero, the turbines, cooling and alike will stay as
expensive (and I have under estimated their cost).
Some gain might came from the side-effect of LENR, like fewer pollution,
longer autonomy, sociological consequence of easier access to food, water,
health, heat... maybe is it there the biggest potential of productivity
gain.

Now I'm less enthusiast, yet it will very good, energy does not seems to be
so important... 10% only.

maybe I miss the point?

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