Long term deflation?

Harry

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:
> Alain wrote:
>
> “since energy is $5-7Tn and GDP is $70Tn, the potential saving on energy is
> around 10%”
>
> “maybe I miss the point?”
>
> Did you consider the following???
>
>
>
> Energy is to economies as physics is to science… it is FUNDAMENTAL, and
> everything is built on top of it.  A significant change to a fundamental
> will propagate to anything built using that fundamental.
>
>
>
> *If* LENR is able to deliver very cheap energy, then the cost of ALL
> PRODUCTS AND SERVICES will also go down… manufacturing requires ENERGY,
> moving those manufactured products to the end consumer (i.e.,
> transportation) requires ENERGY (gas/diesel).  If competition is allowed to
> take its course, the cost of nearly everything will come down.  But the
> ramifications of this are much more complex, and the reality of how this
> would affect different aspects of life are hard to predict… my attitude at
> this point is that much disruption will happen in the short term, but long
> term the average person will be much better off… we are the most adaptable
> species on the planet, and we will adapt; economies will adapt; financial
> markets will adapt…
>
> -Mark
>
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>
> From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Alain Sepeda
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:02 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots
>
>
>
> just to guive data
> I've made some quick computation
> http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27&p=1139#p1139
>
> since energy is $5-7Tn and GDP is $70Tn, the potential saving on energy is
> around 10%,
> that you can interpret as productivity increase.
> The replacement of world energy source is estimated around 15% of GDP, that
> can easily be self-financed by the saving.
> Energy is not free, but few maintenance, ridiculous matter, and some
> investment.
>
> It will be important shock, but not so huge. at most 10%
>
> of course you can expect that the technology will become even cheaper, but
> even if LENR get to zero, the turbines, cooling and alike will stay as
> expensive (and I have under estimated their cost).
> Some gain might came from the side-effect of LENR, like fewer pollution,
> longer autonomy, sociological consequence of easier access to food, water,
> health, heat... maybe is it there the biggest potential of productivity
> gain.
>
> Now I'm less enthusiast, yet it will very good, energy does not seems to be
> so important... 10% only.
>
> maybe I miss the point?

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