NO, I am not forcing down my beliefs, I am correcting a grave misinformation.
If I was mentioning "Intelligent Design" and implying that those who do not believe in Intelligent Design were all somehow biased and stupid, everybody in this forum would be all over my case. But that my friend is what Jed is doing with his incessant talk of Global Warming, Darwinian Evolution and all other leftist socialist ideas. Take his opening post on this thread. He implied that those of us who do not believe in AGW are somehow biased and do not accept the "facts". That's the load of bullcrap that I find offensive in many of Jed's posts (as well as yours.) My friend, this is a science forum. I come here to get away from all the religious, political, and social controversies. I find it disconcerting that many here have taken up this forum for their own personal agenda. Especially when the rules categorically says otherwise. We always know that certain topics are controversial and you would be all over me criticizing me if I so much as mention Intelligent Design. NO!!! That won't happen - you say. Well, it already happened. A simple comparison between the treatment of cold fusion and the treatment of Intelligent Design elicited such strong emotions from this group from no less than our "esteemed" doctor Peter Gluck. And I have been the reciepient of such foul language that you wouldn't want your children to hear. Yes, you despise what I believe; but don't worry, I feel the same way about yours. But why do you feel it is your right to spew such stupidities in this forum? I asked you to stop posting those topics because they are in clear violation of the rules and the response I get is "Rules are guidelines" and "We will do what we want." If anarchy and "strongman dictatorship" is what you want in this forum; that is exactly what you will get. But I value this forum that I do not want that to happen. Hence, my constant appeal to moderation. Jojo PS. By "Strongman Dictatorship"; I mean the attitude of some who have been here long to feel that they can dictate the rules of this forum. The prevalent belief that since they were here first, they can do anything even up to and including violation of the rules. In elementary school, we have a name for those children - we call them Bullies. And when a group of old timers do that to those they don't agree with; that's called a gang of bullies. It's nice to know certain members of vortex have not graduated from these childish tendencies. ----- Original Message ----- From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:00 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides From Jojo, > Indeed it is getting silly.... Silly how people jam their beliefs > of AGW down your throat. There is NO AGW. But even if there was, > as many people said here, I'd rather have it warmer than colder. > Colder weather is more an environmental catastrophe than weather > that is warmer a few degrees. And You're not expressing your personal beliefs down the Collective's throat either? You strike me as feeling quite threatened by all this AGW talk. It really bothers you doesn't it. Tell me Jojo, in your worst nightmare scenario, where AGW could possibly "win" not the scientific battle, but the political battle and the majority begins to "believe" in AGW ramifications, and lawmakers start to implement some of the suggestions AGW scientists have recommended we do. How would the ramifications of such a policy change affect you personally? > Once again, this is not about environmentalism per se. > This is an occultic pantheistic movement, nothing more > than the worship of Mother Earth. Again, I appreciate the fact you've come out of the closet in a really big and flaming way within the Collective in regards to your personal beliefs on AGW and whatnot. But does the premise of AGW really threaten your beliefs on such matters that much? It's not like anyone here is forcing you to marry a particular belief possessing a gender you disapprove of. Certainly, a few in the Collective disagree with you... your belief on the AWG matter, but that's not the same thing as putting a shotgun to your head and saying it's my way or the hi-way. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
