Jojo wrote, inter alia: *"A simple comparison between the treatment of cold fusion and the treatment of Intelligent Design elicited such strong emotions from this group from no less than our "esteemed" doctor Peter Gluck. And I have been the reciepient of such foul language that you wouldn't want your children to hear".*
Jojo, I don't remember the exact discussion, however The comparison ID vs CF is forced and has nothing real in it. ID is a florishing idea with many friends and high level enemies as militant atheists, while CF is simply ignored and the attacks against it are occasional. *Now please tell what foul language have i used against you?* *And can you explained what do you mean by "esteemed"* My hypothesis re you is that you are a conflictual person and you want to impose your ideas on the colleagues in this forum. A matter of style, i don't like conflicts except in playing chess. If I have understood well, you are performing some experimental work in LENR; wouldn't it better to focus on it? And if you don't ;like the subject of a message or it is not interesting for you simply delete it. Peter On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > NO, I am not forcing down my beliefs, I am correcting a grave > misinformation. > > If I was mentioning "Intelligent Design" and implying that those who do > not believe in Intelligent Design were all somehow biased and stupid, > everybody in this forum would be all over my case. But that my friend is > what Jed is doing with his incessant talk of Global Warming, Darwinian > Evolution and all other leftist socialist ideas. Take his opening post on > this thread. He implied that those of us who do not believe in AGW are > somehow biased and do not accept the "facts". That's the load of bullcrap > that I find offensive in many of Jed's posts (as well as yours.) > > My friend, this is a science forum. I come here to get away from all the > religious, political, and social controversies. I find it disconcerting > that many here have taken up this forum for their own personal agenda. > Especially when the rules categorically says otherwise. > > We always know that certain topics are controversial and you would be all > over me criticizing me if I so much as mention Intelligent Design. NO!!! > That won't happen - you say. Well, it already happened. A simple > comparison between the treatment of cold fusion and the treatment of > Intelligent Design elicited such strong emotions from this group from no > less than our "esteemed" doctor Peter Gluck. And I have been the > reciepient of such foul language that you wouldn't want your children to > hear. > > Yes, you despise what I believe; but don't worry, I feel the same way > about yours. But why do you feel it is your right to spew such stupidities > in this forum? I asked you to stop posting those topics because they are > in clear violation of the rules and the response I get is "Rules are > guidelines" and "We will do what we want." If anarchy and "strongman > dictatorship" is what you want in this forum; that is exactly what you will > get. But I value this forum that I do not want that to happen. Hence, my > constant appeal to moderation. > > > Jojo > > > PS. By "Strongman Dictatorship"; I mean the attitude of some who have > been here long to feel that they can dictate the rules of this forum. The > prevalent belief that since they were here first, they can do anything even > up to and including violation of the rules. In elementary school, we have > a name for those children - we call them Bullies. And when a group of old > timers do that to those they don't agree with; that's called a gang of > bullies. It's nice to know certain members of vortex have not graduated > from these childish tendencies. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2012 8:00 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides > > From Jojo,**** > > ** ** > > > Indeed it is getting silly.... Silly how people jam their beliefs**** > > > of AGW down your throat. There is NO AGW. But even if there was,**** > > > as many people said here, I'd rather have it warmer than colder. **** > > > Colder weather is more an environmental catastrophe than weather**** > > > that is warmer a few degrees.**** > > ** ** > > And You're not expressing your personal beliefs down the Collective's > throat either?**** > > ** ** > > You strike me as feeling quite threatened by all this AGW talk. It really > bothers you doesn't it. Tell me Jojo, in your worst nightmare scenario, > where AGW could possibly "win" not the scientific battle, but the political > battle and the majority begins to "believe" in AGW ramifications, and > lawmakers start to implement some of the suggestions AGW scientists have > recommended we do. How would the ramifications of such a policy change > affect you personally?**** > > ** ** > > > Once again, this is not about environmentalism per se. **** > > > This is an occultic pantheistic movement, nothing more**** > > > than the worship of Mother Earth.**** > > ** ** > > Again, I appreciate the fact you've come out of the closet in a really big > and flaming way within the Collective in regards to your personal beliefs > on AGW and whatnot. But does the premise of AGW really threaten your > beliefs on such matters that much? It's not like anyone here is forcing you > to marry a particular belief possessing a gender you disapprove of. > Certainly, a few in the Collective disagree with you... your belief on the > AWG matter, but that's not the same thing as putting a shotgun to your head > and saying it's my way or the hi-way.**** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > Steven Vincent Johnson**** > > www.OrionWorks.com**** > > www.zazzle.com/orionworks**** > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
