" Pick an optimum parts per million CO2 level:(350? ….The way climate is
now) and keep it there). LENR can enable this sort of climate management."

I agree, no need to over-engineer.   Seems like even with a new ice age
LENR will make living in the snow & ice cozier.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Such interplanetary geoengineering is not a good idea. Please leave
> mother nature alone in terms of the amount of carbon we can get our hands
> on. The real long term danger to humankind is the next ice age. JoJo is
> right, if we use all our CO2 reserves now, we will not be able to stop the
> new onslaught of the next ice age. There are chlorinated fluorocarbons that
> can do the job instead of CO2 to manage global warming but IMHO, the best
> way to manage the climate is through the carbon cycle.
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> The disagreement in this tread is at its heart, how to best manage the
> climate, and with the dawn of the LENR age such grand things are possible.
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> What mars needs is more water, it has enough carbon in its atmosphere in
> the form of CO2. It also needs a protective magnetic field, and LENR can
> help power this high energy particle radiation deflection system.
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> We need to direct water bearing asteroids to Mars to provide this water.
> And LENR can help in doing this job too.
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> Cheers:   Axil
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> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>> There might be market for carbon or carbon compounds on the Moon or Mars
>>> for all we know. We might send millions of tons a day up by space elevator
>>> and dispatch it around the solar system. I doubt that will happen, but you
>>> never know.
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>> This may sound utterly impractical. You might think the gigantic mass of
>> material involved makes it out of the question. Think again. We know the
>> approximate mass of material, and it is not so gigantic. We have already
>> moved that mass of carbon compounds. We just have to move it again. The
>> mass of carbon or carbon compounds that we would ship to Mars (or whoever
>> wants to buy it) would be roughly equal to the mass of coal and oil that
>> has been mined and shipped around the earth since 1800. That is a lot, but
>> not an unthinkable amount. I think it takes ~50 supertanker deliveries per
>> day to move oil around the world. A space elevator terminal dispatching 50
>> supertanker-sized loads of carbon compounds or wood to other planets would
>> be expensive and large, but not much bigger than than a major port such
>> as Savannah, Georgia. It would be operated entirely by robots.
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>> If you were to extract carbon from the atmosphere, and then keep
>> dispatching carbon compounds on something like this scale for 200 to 400
>> years, you would reverse the effects of the combustion from the beginning
>> of the industrial revolution. You would do it at a profit. I hope 200 to
>> 400 years would be fast enough.
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>> It might be more profitable to simply export the remaining coal from the
>> earth, or to extract carbon from other sources in the solar system.
>> However, the purpose of would be to reverse global warming while at the
>> same time producing something useful.
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>> I suppose we would use a combination of techniques. Selling some carbon,
>> burying some, using some to build wooden houses.
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>> I predict that people will want to live in wooden houses far into the
>> future, with wooden furniture, even after other synthetic materials become
>> available. Wood looks nicer. People like traditional materials. Japanese
>> people will want tatami made from natural rice straw and rush far into the
>> future. Why wouldn't they? It smells nice. New tatami is a pleasure to sit
>> on. As they say, to live a pleasant life you should get new tatami and a
>> new wife, often.
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>> - Jed
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