A redistributist economy is inevitable.  I say this sadly because I have 
libertarian impulses but realize that technology is leading us into a state 
like StarTrek - in which no one has secure employment except for the guy who 
fixes the Replicator. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

Hoorah!!! let's steal from the rich to redistribute to all the lazy bums out 
there.  I wonder how you would feel if I confiscated your house and let 
homeless people live there with you.  I'm pretty sure you would welcome that 
and enjoy it.

What a moron!



Jojo




----- Original Message -----
From: "OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson" <svj.orionwo...@gmail.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized


> It's possible my recent little mini-rant gave many Vorts the
> impression that I believe that the "Rich and Powerful" are evil
> miscreants, that I believe the majority of U.S. citizens who reside in
> so-called 98% under/middle class should rise up and overthrow the
> alleged tyranny of the greedy, the so-called "Rich and Powerful" -
> yada-yada and so forth.
>
> Personally, I suspect "greed" is a natural component of our
> psychological and physiological makeup. It's in our genes, and for
> good reason. Greed, specifically the action of hoarding helped our
> ancient ancestors survive slim-pickens, such as when hunting for game
> was at best a precarious job skill, and famine prevailed throughout
> the land.
>
> However, today the entire world is slowing transforming (granted, in
> fits and starts) into a technologically automated society, where most
> of our needs will available to us via technology, through the wonders
> of automation and robotics. The absolute need to follow many of our
> prior genetically built-in biological imperatives, particularly the
> greed to amass as much money as one can (and all the privileges
> associated with "money) is becoming increasingly more
> counterproductive.
>
> A modern working-class society, a modern economy cannot flourish
> unless the middle class can secure sufficient discretionary "income"
> in which to purchase goods and services that in-turn are mostly
> created by the working class. If too much discretionary currency ends
> up in the coffers of just a few rich and powerful individuals and
> corporations the economy of the majority of working class citizens
> collapses because of working classes' inability to support it.
>
> That's were government regulation has to step in and help level the
> playing field. It will not be easy, nor will all adjustments be
> perfect. Needless to say, the Rich and Powerful will resist. The Tea
> Party will resist! ;-) Just keep in mind, however, that it's just our
> genes telling to prepare for famine. But this time... maybe this time
> we don't have to believe "famine" is just around the corner, not when
> technology, automation, and robotics are rapidly becoming the new
> underclass of our modern society. It's an underclass that will never
> demand expensive health insurance, or join a union and constantly go
> on strike for a pay raise.
>
> Unfortunately, old habits - particularly some of those faithful genes
> associated with greed - are going to be with us for a very long time.
>
> This will be an interesting presidential election. I hope it won't be
> ruled by our genes.
>
> Regards
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> www.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>
> 

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