A Funny thing always happens in discussions about communism and its
associated philosophies, like Socialism, Social Justice, Social Security and
Income Redistribution, Income Equality and the like. Advocates of such a
philosphy always couch their arguments in apologetic, deceptive and covert
terms to make the philosophy appeal to more people. Such is the attempt of
Harry below. He attempts to call Income Redistribution as "NOTHING like
this. (Communism)". Well, in fact, Income Redistribution is a
quintessential philosophy in communism. Every day people recognize it as
such, while communist advocates deny it all day long hoping their readers
are gullible.
Why do communists adherrents do this?
The answer is simple. Communistic philosophies are so repulsive and
incompatible to human nature that ALL people naturally recoil from it. The
only way communism is imposed on people is thru deception and force. Has
there ever been a people or country under communist rule that would not want
to free itself from it. Peter Gluck is a perfect example of how free
thinking people always despise communism. And his is an example of billions
more.
Communism is a discredited and retrograde philosophy. And its tenets are
always oppressive and unfair that people normally balk from it. No free
thinking person would naturally cleave to communism.
Yet, we have our resident moron and lazy bum from Wisconsin wanting to
implement Income Redistribution so that he may have some "discretionary"
income. Notice what he said:
"a modern economy cannot flourish unless the middle class can secure
sufficient discretionary "income" in which to purchase goods and services
that in-turn are mostly created by the working class."
In other words, he wants money he did not work for so that he can spend it
on stuff he does not need (discretionary). I don't know about you, but I
call that "LAZY".
Well, I have news for the LAZY bum in Wisconsin. This modern society of
America HAS flourished without income redistribution. In fact, it is now
floundering because lazy bums like you have this "entitlement" mentality
that you need money for discretionary spending.
Unblelievable how you can say this with a straight face and pretend you are
not a communist.
There is nothing more abhorent in this world than liars, communists,
socialist, liberals and lazy bums. And you my friend are all of these.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Veeder" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
Dictatorial Communism allocated resources through the control of
prices and production.
Calls for the redistribution income in a free market system is nothing
like this.
Harry
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote:
The Internet also say so- see for example:
https://www.technologyreview.com/emtech/12/
received this morning, one suggestion from many that technological
progress
COULD contribute to
the solving of Humanity's great problems.
I am just working on a blog publication about
effectiveness and efficiency- in two parts- 1- about the dark side of
these
concepts and 2- about efficiency of/in cold fusion/LENR research.
Only commercial LENR could contribute to
problem solving- something much better than combustion, fission, wind and
solar energy -and
the efforts/results ratio was very small till now.
LENR per se is wicked problem.
Peter
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:02 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I have the experience of 45 years of Communism and now 22 years of
> nascent capitalism. The Kaltwasser Doctrine (see on my blog) applies
> to
> both but Capitalism is definitelly better.if you like work,education
> and
> have good inititiatives. I have learned that it is an immense
> difference
> between social theories and social practice so
> I am more than skepticalregarding redistribution.
> It can be imagined a complex, slow, developing system for diminishing
> the Gini coefficients of a state but the resistance will be fierce.
> The social problems are very wicked everywhere.
Peter,
You have accumulated far more first-hand experience than I have
assembled within my 60 years of life. I am not in a position to
challenge what you had to endure either, nor do I want to. I'm glad
you survived in order to tell us all what you experienced.
Perhaps I error on this point but I will assume that some Vorts may
have come to the conclusion that I must be some kind of a communist at
heart. Jojo certainly seems to have labeled me as such, along with a
few other derogatory terms. But no matter. FWIW, I continue perceive
myself as a capitalist at heart. In my view, those who work harder,
those who continue to innovate and bring improvements into the
everyday lives of others should be rewarded. I suspect capitalism,
flawed it may be, is probably better at compensating such individuals
than any other system. It's imperative that Incentives and rewards be
in place.
However...
It's my suspicion that with ensuing advancements of technology,
automation and robotics, traditional capitalism as it is currently
practiced will have to evolve... perhaps radically. I personally
suspect that capitalism will eventually have to incorporate a number
of socialistic concepts into its fundamental core, particularly things
like universal health care. Capitalism, in turn, will have to improve
on many of these socialistic "rights". I think most capitalistic
societies will eventually come around to a realization that what used
to be considered privileged "benefits" that only the rich and well off
could afford should be perceived as universal rights that are to be
bestowed on all of its citizens. Such benefits would include
unemployment compensation that, if warranted, simultaneously
incorporates "free" job re-training. Eventually, free advanced
eduction should become another inevitable universal right as well.
However, I think such benefits will only be possible through the
continued advances of technology, automation and robotics.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
