I should add that I don't have the training or experience to take the lead
on such an effort. I am just a basically competent writer with an interest
in the subject matter.

Jeff

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Jeff Berkowitz <[email protected]> wrote:

> For the technical reader, this has already been done, here:
> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEstatusofcoa.pdf
>
> I would be interested in cooperating to put something aimed at
> non-technical readers together.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Mark Gibbs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't have the time to review the huge amount of literature you people
>> have already looked at ... if any of you, Rothwell included, would like to
>> help build a list of successful experiments I'd be happy to build it into
>> an article with full attribution to all contributors. I'd like to see a
>> list that includes:
>>
>>    - where
>>    - when
>>    - technology
>>    - run time
>>    - COP
>>    - experimenters and affiliations
>>    - observers and affiliations
>>    - references
>>
>> I think such a list would be very useful in public discussions about the
>> reality of cold fusion.
>>
>> [mg]
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Jeff Berkowitz <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Good question Peter. I've been wondering something similar, just
>>> slightly more specific. Ni-H has gotten a lot of attention lately. But what
>>> sequence of Pd-D experiments over the years was most significant to the
>>> "...slow erosion of the psuedoskeptic position..." that Abd described in
>>> email to the group some time back?
>>>
>>> Possible answer - "read the Storms 2010 summary paper and follow his
>>> references" ? Or is there a shorter / more specific / different answer?
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Jed,
>>>>
>>>> Which experiment of all (except the 1kW Patterson Cell)
>>>> was the best ever?
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sigh . . . Another ignorant article by Gibbs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is what I just wrote in the Forbes article comment section:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The author wrote: "Even so, the Defkalion tests were, as far as any
>>>>> cold fusion experiment performed to date has gone,  the best so far and
>>>>> they were witnessed by someone who is, for want of a better description, a
>>>>> serious scientist."
>>>>>
>>>>> This statement is preposterous. Cold fusion has been replicated in
>>>>> hundreds of major laboratories, in thousands of test runs. Many of these
>>>>> runs were far better than the Defkalion tests witnessed by Nelson. Many of
>>>>> these other tests have been witnessed by world-class experts in
>>>>> calorimetry, such Robert Duncan of U. Missouri. This was shown in "60
>>>>> Minutes."
>>>>>
>>>>> The Defkalion tests were not bad, but tests at SRI, Los Alamos, BARC,
>>>>> China Lake and other major laboratories used much better equipment and
>>>>> produced much larger signal to noise ratios. In some of these other tests
>>>>> the ratio of input to output was larger than Defkalion's, and in some 
>>>>> there
>>>>> was no input, so the ratio was infinite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hundreds of mainstream, peer-reviewed journal papers have been
>>>>> published describing experiments more convincing than the Defkalion tests.
>>>>> Gibbs is ignoring this peer-reviewed literature and looking instead at few
>>>>> preliminary documents published on the Internet. He is ignoring the gold
>>>>> standard of established science.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>>> Cluj, Romania
>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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