Why have a law if it can not be broken? We have laws against stealing because people actually steal. Maybe we don't need any stinking laws of thermodynamics since no one can break them.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: mixent <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 4:47 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Does This System Beat Laws of Thermodynamics? In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:09:49 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] >Robin, does this result in cooling as the heat is converted? If so, does it not break one of the laws? Yes it does result in cooling. As the electrolyte gets colder, the electrolysis slows even further (less molecules with sufficient kinetic energy to assist the process). I'm sure a "real" scientist would tell you that none of the laws are broken. :) > > >Dave > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mixent <[email protected]> >To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 4:04 pm >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Does This System Beat Laws of Thermodynamics? > > >In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:25:13 -0500 (EST): >Hi, >[snip] >>In this case you are inputting electrical energy to obtain the gasses. Heat >will be added overall to the system as a result and it will become warmer. If >you find a way to drive the electrolysis by converting the heat energy of the >system into electricity then your concept would be similar to my model. > >This actually happens when you electrolyze water at a voltage between 1.23 >(1.21?)V & 1.48V. More precisely, heat energy of the system is converted to >chemical energy of the gasses, but the electrolysis is very slow. > >Regards, > >Robin van Spaandonk > >http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > > > Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
