With your PhD, please find 95% of the universe and report back to me.

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Chem, please give some references and sources for your entropic particle
> definition.
> Thanks,
> Giovanni
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Where did you find this definition of an entropic particle? Can you show
>> me the forces?
>> By the way I have a PhD in Astrophysics.
>> Thanks,
>> Giovanni
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> It is a ball of entropy known as a micro black hole.  They make up 95%
>>> of the universe.  I think you should stick to music with a name like that
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chem,
>>>> I think you should stick to chemistry. I don't want to be impolite but
>>>> which nonsense is this?
>>>> What is an entropic particle? LOL
>>>> Common.
>>>> Giovanni
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> According to my Research  & Theory:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1)  The Earth has an entropic dark matter core and creates its own
>>>>> iron and nickel.  Geologists are way over their head trying to explain it
>>>>> away as a bar magnet.
>>>>> 2)  The Earth's entropic core creates its own magnetic fields thru
>>>>> annihilation and charged orbital dark matter and other particles
>>>>> 3) The Earth's entropic core battery gets recharged as the sun spits
>>>>> entropic particles at us triggering our weather and seismic events out 
>>>>> here
>>>>> on the crust.  Many of the large particles coalesce with the Earth's
>>>>> entropic core and also cool the Earth down
>>>>> 4)  We are just part of the colorful 5% crust.
>>>>> 5)  If you look at that Chandra X-Ray Matrix, the Earth is one of the
>>>>> intersecting/nodal points connected to the Sun which is a larger nodal
>>>>> point.
>>>>> 6)  The sun is about to get a millennial supply of orbital dark matter
>>>>> from those two great comets coming .  I just pray no nuclei break off and
>>>>> come our way.  Should be a good show either way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stewart
>>>>> darkmattersalot.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are many problems with this theory.
>>>>>> One even if all these ideas would hold they could be applied only to
>>>>>> later stages of the universe life because iron and nickel are created by
>>>>>> massive stars and then released into space when they died as supernovae.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also consider that iron and heavy materials are very rare exactly
>>>>>> because only very massive stars can produce these materials.
>>>>>> Furthermore what you call natural magnetism is not something that
>>>>>> occurs so naturally for dust in space.
>>>>>> On earth natural magnetized material become magnetized because of the
>>>>>> Earth magnetic field. Look up how magnetic rocks get magnetized in wiki:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_magnetism#Thermoremanent_magnetization_.28TRM.29
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need a huge dynamo magnet like the one at the core of the earth
>>>>>> to magnetize small things like rocks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The dynamo magnet is created by plasma that rotates at the center of
>>>>>> the Earth and creates by induction a magnetic field. The fact that there 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> iron at the core helps to make the magnetic field stronger and helps to
>>>>>> carry the electrical current of the plasma but it is not the source per 
>>>>>> se
>>>>>> of the magnetic field of the earth. The sun doesn't have iron at the core
>>>>>> and it has a very strong magnetic field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The iron ended up at the core of the Earth because it is heavier
>>>>>> than silica and the other lighter elements that make the earth crust.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gravity is the dominant force at astronomical scales because it acts
>>>>>> on everything not special materials (like in the case for magnetism). 
>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>> it is weak but when you are dealing with huge quantity of stuff that
>>>>>> dominates all the other forces in particular because electrostatic 
>>>>>> charges
>>>>>> tend to neutralize themselves coming in pairs and magnetic forces are
>>>>>> produced by moving charges and decay rapidly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And so on...
>>>>>> The theory makes not much sense in physical terms. Sorry.
>>>>>> Giovanni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM, David Roberson 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The vortex-l group of individuals have a great deal of knowledge and
>>>>>>> open minds that I enjoy prodding on occasions.  This morning an unusual
>>>>>>> concept came into my mind which resulted in a hypothesis that I would 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> to put forth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Suppose that the universe is organized by the influence of
>>>>>>> magnetic attractions between materials such as iron and nickel that can 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> permanently magnetized instead of gravity, at least in the formative 
>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>  We all know that gravitation is by far the weakest force within the
>>>>>>> universe so why should we assume that such a modest effect would 
>>>>>>> dominate?
>>>>>>>  My hypothesis is that this concept is entirely backwards and that the
>>>>>>> basic structures are formed by magnetic influences.  After the magnetic
>>>>>>> effects have completed their portion of the task the gravitational
>>>>>>> influence completes the puzzle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Picture a region in open space that has a large collection of dust
>>>>>>> and gases.  It is certain that many specs of iron or nickel laden dust
>>>>>>> exist within this region and that many of these posses natural magnetic
>>>>>>> fields.  The attraction due to the magnetic field would dominate the net
>>>>>>> attraction between these particles by an extremely large margin.  As 
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> progresses the magnetized  portions would strongly attract and then 
>>>>>>> collect
>>>>>>> together into larger magnetic units.  This should occur far faster than
>>>>>>> gravitational collection due to the enormous difference in forces.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  So, masses such as the earth's core come together quickly and
>>>>>>> consist of large concentrations of iron and nickel and any other 
>>>>>>> magnetic
>>>>>>> materials.  The same would occur in the early formations that eventually
>>>>>>> become other planets and stars.  When the collection of magnetic 
>>>>>>> materials
>>>>>>> is mostly completed, then it would be natural for the less magnetic 
>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>> to be gravitationally concentrated toward these large metallic centers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  In my model, it seems likely that pebbles held together
>>>>>>> magnetically should withstand much more pounding in collisions than 
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> merely confined by gravity.  This difference in cohesive strength should
>>>>>>> further tend to result in large magnetic bundles at the expense of those
>>>>>>> formed of other materials.  With this in mind, it seems likely that all 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> planets that form in a region of space that contains the metals that 
>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>> magnetized will grow an iron like core first and quickly until these
>>>>>>> materials have been swept clean of the region.  This process is then
>>>>>>> followed by the gravitational attraction of the metal cores to the 
>>>>>>> gasses
>>>>>>> and other materials.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The same type of influence should be exhibited throughout the
>>>>>>> universe at large.  Some of the formations have appearances that seem
>>>>>>> unusual if gravitation is the prime force at work.  Gravity does not
>>>>>>> generate shapes with spatial directivity to the degree that magnetic
>>>>>>> attraction does.  Gravity only pulls items towards each other in a 
>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>> line.  Magnetic materials generally have a dipole field or a complex 
>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>> that is composed of the addition of many such dipoles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  If we consider that my hypothesis results in the collection of the
>>>>>>> magnetic materials rapidly and dominantly throughout space, then each of
>>>>>>> these would tend to influence others of their kind in the near vicinity.
>>>>>>>  This should dominate the early formation of matter that eventually 
>>>>>>> leads
>>>>>>> to galaxies, etc.  I suppose that it is a good thing that the magnetic
>>>>>>> fields of iron masses falls off rapidly with distance due to the dipole
>>>>>>> nature or the universe might be dominated by truly enormous collections 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> magnetic core objects.  The shorter range of these dipoles compared to 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> monopole of gravity allow what we observe today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Is it possible that the enormous black holes at the centers of
>>>>>>> galaxies began in this magnetic manner?  It would not be difficult to
>>>>>>> imagine that most of the iron and other magnetic materials would be 
>>>>>>> swept
>>>>>>> together first and fast if present within a nearly created dust cloud.
>>>>>>>  Once a core has been established, it should easily dominate the 
>>>>>>> remainder
>>>>>>> of the cloud and attract the gasses by its quickly formed gravitational
>>>>>>> field that reaches far into space.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Another idea to consider is that the strong magnetic field at the
>>>>>>> core of the black hole reaches out far enough to impart directivity to 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> motion of materials moving in the direction towards its center.  Any
>>>>>>> smaller magnetic masses would be pushed or pulled by the mother field of
>>>>>>> the hole into directions that tend to follow its field pattern.  The
>>>>>>> smaller magnetic components would then impart some of this force upon 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> gases and other materials by direct coupling among them.  As the total
>>>>>>> combination of materials approach the hole, the kinetic energy imparted
>>>>>>> upon the mass send it past the north or south polar region into orbit.  
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> is premature to attempt to define the structure of a black hole under 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> influence of magnetic effects until a more complete picture emerges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I can visualize the wild and amazing behavior that would be
>>>>>>> imparted upon a gas with magnetic particles immersed within as it
>>>>>>> approaches a large magnetic black hole.  Once the gas is turned into a
>>>>>>> plasma by the heat and forces applied, it would possess a tremendous
>>>>>>> electric current induced within by the motion through the hole's 
>>>>>>> magnetic
>>>>>>> field.  Great forces could occur that may result in the beams that are 
>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>> emitted by the galactic center black holes.  Perhaps someone could 
>>>>>>> allow a
>>>>>>> super computer the chance to predict this behavior.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The hypothesis is supported by the known core of the earth.  this
>>>>>>> is known to be composed of iron and nickel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Meteorites are composed of various materials.  The metallic ones
>>>>>>> have a large concentrations of magnetic matter within that may have
>>>>>>> collected together rapidly at the formation of the parent body.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The shape of the clouds associated with the enormous explosions of
>>>>>>> super nova tend to be non symmetrical on many occasions with patterns
>>>>>>> associated with dipole or quadrapole fields.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Do other vortex members see support of reasons to believe that
>>>>>>> this hypothesis is not workable?  I am seeking inputs from our esteemed
>>>>>>> members that might help to put this puzzle together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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