Did you find it yourself? The Nobel prize is a million bucks you know. Giovanni
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]> wrote: > With your PhD, please find 95% of the universe and report back to me. > > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Giovanni Santostasi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Chem, please give some references and sources for your entropic particle >> definition. >> Thanks, >> Giovanni >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Giovanni Santostasi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Where did you find this definition of an entropic particle? Can you show >>> me the forces? >>> By the way I have a PhD in Astrophysics. >>> Thanks, >>> Giovanni >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> It is a ball of entropy known as a micro black hole. They make up 95% >>>> of the universe. I think you should stick to music with a name like that >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Giovanni Santostasi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chem, >>>>> I think you should stick to chemistry. I don't want to be impolite but >>>>> which nonsense is this? >>>>> What is an entropic particle? LOL >>>>> Common. >>>>> Giovanni >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> According to my Research & Theory: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) The Earth has an entropic dark matter core and creates its own >>>>>> iron and nickel. Geologists are way over their head trying to explain it >>>>>> away as a bar magnet. >>>>>> 2) The Earth's entropic core creates its own magnetic fields thru >>>>>> annihilation and charged orbital dark matter and other particles >>>>>> 3) The Earth's entropic core battery gets recharged as the sun spits >>>>>> entropic particles at us triggering our weather and seismic events out >>>>>> here >>>>>> on the crust. Many of the large particles coalesce with the Earth's >>>>>> entropic core and also cool the Earth down >>>>>> 4) We are just part of the colorful 5% crust. >>>>>> 5) If you look at that Chandra X-Ray Matrix, the Earth is one of the >>>>>> intersecting/nodal points connected to the Sun which is a larger nodal >>>>>> point. >>>>>> 6) The sun is about to get a millennial supply of orbital dark >>>>>> matter from those two great comets coming . I just pray no nuclei break >>>>>> off and come our way. Should be a good show either way. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stewart >>>>>> darkmattersalot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Giovanni Santostasi < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There are many problems with this theory. >>>>>>> One even if all these ideas would hold they could be applied only to >>>>>>> later stages of the universe life because iron and nickel are created by >>>>>>> massive stars and then released into space when they died as supernovae. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also consider that iron and heavy materials are very rare exactly >>>>>>> because only very massive stars can produce these materials. >>>>>>> Furthermore what you call natural magnetism is not something that >>>>>>> occurs so naturally for dust in space. >>>>>>> On earth natural magnetized material become magnetized because of >>>>>>> the Earth magnetic field. Look up how magnetic rocks get magnetized in >>>>>>> wiki: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_magnetism#Thermoremanent_magnetization_.28TRM.29 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You need a huge dynamo magnet like the one at the core of the earth >>>>>>> to magnetize small things like rocks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The dynamo magnet is created by plasma that rotates at the center of >>>>>>> the Earth and creates by induction a magnetic field. The fact that >>>>>>> there is >>>>>>> iron at the core helps to make the magnetic field stronger and helps to >>>>>>> carry the electrical current of the plasma but it is not the source per >>>>>>> se >>>>>>> of the magnetic field of the earth. The sun doesn't have iron at the >>>>>>> core >>>>>>> and it has a very strong magnetic field. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The iron ended up at the core of the Earth because it is heavier >>>>>>> than silica and the other lighter elements that make the earth crust. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gravity is the dominant force at astronomical scales because it acts >>>>>>> on everything not special materials (like in the case for magnetism). >>>>>>> Yes, >>>>>>> it is weak but when you are dealing with huge quantity of stuff that >>>>>>> dominates all the other forces in particular because electrostatic >>>>>>> charges >>>>>>> tend to neutralize themselves coming in pairs and magnetic forces are >>>>>>> produced by moving charges and decay rapidly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And so on... >>>>>>> The theory makes not much sense in physical terms. Sorry. >>>>>>> Giovanni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM, David Roberson <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The vortex-l group of individuals have a great deal of knowledge >>>>>>>> and open minds that I enjoy prodding on occasions. This morning an >>>>>>>> unusual >>>>>>>> concept came into my mind which resulted in a hypothesis that I would >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> to put forth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Suppose that the universe is organized by the influence of >>>>>>>> magnetic attractions between materials such as iron and nickel that >>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>> permanently magnetized instead of gravity, at least in the formative >>>>>>>> years. >>>>>>>> We all know that gravitation is by far the weakest force within the >>>>>>>> universe so why should we assume that such a modest effect would >>>>>>>> dominate? >>>>>>>> My hypothesis is that this concept is entirely backwards and that the >>>>>>>> basic structures are formed by magnetic influences. After the magnetic >>>>>>>> effects have completed their portion of the task the gravitational >>>>>>>> influence completes the puzzle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Picture a region in open space that has a large collection of >>>>>>>> dust and gases. It is certain that many specs of iron or nickel laden >>>>>>>> dust >>>>>>>> exist within this region and that many of these posses natural magnetic >>>>>>>> fields. The attraction due to the magnetic field would dominate the >>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>> attraction between these particles by an extremely large margin. As >>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>> progresses the magnetized portions would strongly attract and then >>>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>> together into larger magnetic units. This should occur far faster than >>>>>>>> gravitational collection due to the enormous difference in forces. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, masses such as the earth's core come together quickly and >>>>>>>> consist of large concentrations of iron and nickel and any other >>>>>>>> magnetic >>>>>>>> materials. The same would occur in the early formations that >>>>>>>> eventually >>>>>>>> become other planets and stars. When the collection of magnetic >>>>>>>> materials >>>>>>>> is mostly completed, then it would be natural for the less magnetic >>>>>>>> matter >>>>>>>> to be gravitationally concentrated toward these large metallic centers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In my model, it seems likely that pebbles held together >>>>>>>> magnetically should withstand much more pounding in collisions than >>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>> merely confined by gravity. This difference in cohesive strength >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> further tend to result in large magnetic bundles at the expense of >>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>> formed of other materials. With this in mind, it seems likely that >>>>>>>> all the >>>>>>>> planets that form in a region of space that contains the metals that >>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>> magnetized will grow an iron like core first and quickly until these >>>>>>>> materials have been swept clean of the region. This process is then >>>>>>>> followed by the gravitational attraction of the metal cores to the >>>>>>>> gasses >>>>>>>> and other materials. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The same type of influence should be exhibited throughout the >>>>>>>> universe at large. Some of the formations have appearances that seem >>>>>>>> unusual if gravitation is the prime force at work. Gravity does not >>>>>>>> generate shapes with spatial directivity to the degree that magnetic >>>>>>>> attraction does. Gravity only pulls items towards each other in a >>>>>>>> straight >>>>>>>> line. Magnetic materials generally have a dipole field or a complex >>>>>>>> field >>>>>>>> that is composed of the addition of many such dipoles. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If we consider that my hypothesis results in the collection of >>>>>>>> the magnetic materials rapidly and dominantly throughout space, then >>>>>>>> each >>>>>>>> of these would tend to influence others of their kind in the near >>>>>>>> vicinity. >>>>>>>> This should dominate the early formation of matter that eventually >>>>>>>> leads >>>>>>>> to galaxies, etc. I suppose that it is a good thing that the magnetic >>>>>>>> fields of iron masses falls off rapidly with distance due to the dipole >>>>>>>> nature or the universe might be dominated by truly enormous >>>>>>>> collections of >>>>>>>> magnetic core objects. The shorter range of these dipoles compared to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> monopole of gravity allow what we observe today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is it possible that the enormous black holes at the centers of >>>>>>>> galaxies began in this magnetic manner? It would not be difficult to >>>>>>>> imagine that most of the iron and other magnetic materials would be >>>>>>>> swept >>>>>>>> together first and fast if present within a nearly created dust cloud. >>>>>>>> Once a core has been established, it should easily dominate the >>>>>>>> remainder >>>>>>>> of the cloud and attract the gasses by its quickly formed gravitational >>>>>>>> field that reaches far into space. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another idea to consider is that the strong magnetic field at the >>>>>>>> core of the black hole reaches out far enough to impart directivity to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> motion of materials moving in the direction towards its center. Any >>>>>>>> smaller magnetic masses would be pushed or pulled by the mother field >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the hole into directions that tend to follow its field pattern. The >>>>>>>> smaller magnetic components would then impart some of this force upon >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> gases and other materials by direct coupling among them. As the total >>>>>>>> combination of materials approach the hole, the kinetic energy imparted >>>>>>>> upon the mass send it past the north or south polar region into orbit. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> is premature to attempt to define the structure of a black hole under >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> influence of magnetic effects until a more complete picture emerges. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can visualize the wild and amazing behavior that would be >>>>>>>> imparted upon a gas with magnetic particles immersed within as it >>>>>>>> approaches a large magnetic black hole. Once the gas is turned into a >>>>>>>> plasma by the heat and forces applied, it would possess a tremendous >>>>>>>> electric current induced within by the motion through the hole's >>>>>>>> magnetic >>>>>>>> field. Great forces could occur that may result in the beams that are >>>>>>>> seen >>>>>>>> emitted by the galactic center black holes. Perhaps someone could >>>>>>>> allow a >>>>>>>> super computer the chance to predict this behavior. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The hypothesis is supported by the known core of the earth. this >>>>>>>> is known to be composed of iron and nickel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Meteorites are composed of various materials. The metallic ones >>>>>>>> have a large concentrations of magnetic matter within that may have >>>>>>>> collected together rapidly at the formation of the parent body. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The shape of the clouds associated with the enormous explosions >>>>>>>> of super nova tend to be non symmetrical on many occasions with >>>>>>>> patterns >>>>>>>> associated with dipole or quadrapole fields. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do other vortex members see support of reasons to believe that >>>>>>>> this hypothesis is not workable? I am seeking inputs from our esteemed >>>>>>>> members that might help to put this puzzle together. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
