Whoa ! Hold everything. What a find.

This Watta-heater is copper nickel plated...

http://www.amazon.com/Lewis-N-Clark-Watta-Heater/dp/B0045E4DSW

Heck - here is your basic Celani replication experiment for 16 bucks.

Jones




                From: Jones Beene 

                BTW - can you find out what metal the beverage heater is
made of?
                
                Probably stainless and NOT chrome plated (hexavalent chrome
is highly toxic).

                If it were to be the 316L grade of SS that could be
important. This grade has been associated with energy anomalies. That could
relate to why it performed better than expected.


                                From: Jones Beene 
                
                                Jack - Well that is interesting. It may be a
relic of too little data which will average out over time, but it may also
mean something now.

                                IOW, it begs for more confirming data with
slight changes that would accentuate the effect by adding increasing levels
of H loading with every run. Since you have some data that indicates an
effect, if another set of runs confirms this at a higher level based on the
prediction of an effect due to increased hydrogen loading - then it becomes
more meaningful. 

                                Why not go back and do several more sets of
identical runs like those - with the only change being that you have
electro-etched the exposed electrodes for units of increasing duration. 

                                If that chart then shows a trend towards
greater and greater delta-T (both up and down) with increasing loading -
then. voila, you have something which could be important.  



                                From: Jack Cole 
                                
                                Jones,
                                
                                I went back and looked at some of my
previous results, and they do raise the possibility of anomalous cooling.  I
was a little confused by these results at the time.
                                
                                After our discussion, I think this is
exactly what you were predicting.  The control trial used HFAC pulses
through a beverage heating element (2 seconds) alternating with 30VDC
electrolysis through the nitinol wire (10 seconds).  The experimental run
used 30VDC electrolysis for 10 seconds alternating with 2 second HFAC pulses
through the nitinol.  Notice that the beverage heater temperature produced
results above the predicted amount and nitinol pulses produced results below
the predicted amount.  I don't make a whole lot of the beverage heater being
above the predictions because I don't think there would have been a lot of
hydrogen loading into that.  But the nitinol results are intriguing enough
to explore further.
                                
                                Here is the chart.
                                
        
http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/EXP52.png
                                
                                Best regards,
                                Jack
                                
                                On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Jones Beene
<[email protected]> wrote:
                                A combination of vinegar and hydrogen
peroxide works with nickel-copper and is very safe. This is often used to
etch PCBs. Using a few volts with the wire as cathode  should also load H2.
The muriatic may work better on Nitinol.
                                 
                                This is not precise calorimetry - Terry...
you can to call it "thermometry" and be sure to stir. Just a simple way to
gauge the comparative ability to raise the temp of a known mass of water.
Using the specific heat to arrive at joules and logging the P-in, you can
get a ballpark but the basic idea is comparative between a wire that may be
slightly gainful and one that may be slightly endothermic.
                                 
                                The idea is to see if there is anything
"obvious" there, before incurring the expense and time of doing it right.
For instance, going from 25C to 75C in an hour with Constantan at (x)watts
P-in vs. 25 C to 65 C with Nitinol (both wires of the same Ohmic resistance)
and everything else being the same ... that would be interesting enough to
dig deeper, no?
                                 
                                Ahern's finding of anomalous endotherm with
nickel-titanium is 'out there' in the public record and ought to be
corroborated or debunked.
                                 
                                From: Jack Cole 
                                 
                                I could run some low power electrolysis for
a day or two in some diluted hydrochloric acid.  Think that would do the
trick?  Or do you have another idea for the acid?
                                Hydrogen loading will surely be necessary at
some level, but can possibly be accommodated by combination of low pH
electrolyte, not so low as to dissolve the wires... or preferably by
preloading etched wires for a day under H2 pressure and modest heat, or even
the simplest expedient which would be during a slow electro-etching in weak
acid- with the wires as cathodes. The last would be the easiest to try for
anyone without H2.
                                 
                                 
                                

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