David and Fellow Vortexians. I have used a few Ad-homens to describe a class of people that have a stubborn contrary and confounding point of view with respect to anthropogenic global warming. For that I apologize and I will refrain from the short little quips and Ad-homens. For me, AGW is a hot button issue. It really bothers me when people are duped by anti-agw propaganda sites like wattsupwiththat. You do realize that Mr Watt is paid better than $90,000/year by the Heartland Institute to provide counter arguments to make the climate change debate look unsettled even if Mr. Watt just makes it up. Heartland is funded by Koch, and other deep pocket anonymous donors. The also fund ALEC and many other rightwing causes.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute Scroll down to find the link to Mr. Watt. Personally I don't like to be a tool or a fool of a dark money based propaganda machine. David, I've always enjoyed reading your comments. In science, I've changed my mind on a number of held beliefs. For example, an accelerating universe expansion took me a year before I could see that that data was correct and all of the cosmology I studied was relegated to junk. So maybe a good exchange of ideas will make someone see the light, or understand the science a little better. Best Regards, Chuck On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:51 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > Chuck, I have reframed from entering this discussion because of the > emotions that become entangled. You should apologize for that comment > since it is out of order. What good would it do if people on the other > side directed the same type of attacks toward you? We recently went > through a long disgusting series of a similar nature and it resulted in > vortex being closed for a week and a couple of members being banned. Do > you want to see that happen again? > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Sites <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 2:02 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT Global Warming > > The reality of AGW IS an no-brainer, and it IS the deniers that are plain > stupid. That is a fact jack. Tere are 20000 scientist that say so against > your 5. Give it up deniers, you lost this debate in like 2009. > > Chuck > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Harry Veeder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The reality of AGM is often presented as a no-brainer and that deniers >> are just plain stupid. >> However, this shows that global warming is not transparently >> self-evident and that an additional level of >> analysis is required to tease out the proof. I personally think the >> climate scientists speak down to the lay public >> and this attitude fuels denialism. >> >>
