>A nuclear reaction must produce radiation in some form. I think this reasoning is how LENR ended up as a fringe science...
IE P+F could not possibly have seen that much heat or they would be dead from radiation, therefore they are lying... I agree that in some situations LENR systems make detectable radiation... I also agree that there is evidence that sometimes they make heat and no "detectable" radiation. Dr Storms current theory argues that for D+D ->4He the system must emit the energy in small enough doses that the radiation can't penetrate far enough to be detected.... The LENR on a thin membrane with xray film on the other side of the membrane experiments show there is radiation.. So yes for LENR to be occurring there must be radiation at some point, the key question I'm really asking is not is there something nuclear, the key question is there detectable radiation... and "maybe" is not really good enough if the goal is quickly screening lots possibilities... Paul On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > Paul, you need to be careful how you describe "correlation". A nuclear > reaction must produce radiation in some form. This is the only way energy > of the required magnitude can be released from a nuclear process. The only > issue is how much of this radiation can be detected outside of the > apparatus. Obviously, not much of this kind of energy escapes when CF > occurs. Nevertheless, the radiation is useful to demonstrate that a novel > nuclear reaction is occurring. The amount of radiation can only give a > relative measure of the true rate, which is related to the heat being > measured. > > Ed > > > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Paul Breed wrote: > > Thanks for the references... there is so much info to absorb in this > space.. > As I suspected Piantelli is seeing heat, OR he is seeing radiation, > they do not seem to be corelated. IE gammas are not a good stand in for > heat production... > > Paul > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dear Paul, >> >> Do you know: >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/08/piantelli-taxonomy_15.html ? >> >> Piantelli is the discoverer and developer, and long runner (solitary) of >> the NiH system. The tests >> were made at the Sienna Univ. the anlytical part at the Bologna u, >> (Sergio Focardi et al) >> >> Peter >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Paul Breed <p...@rasdoc.com> wrote: >> >>> As I previously commented I'm trying to set up a system for quickly >>> testing >>> various materials, simulations etc.... in a dry gas cell. >>> >>> Dr Storms seems pretty confident that whatever LENR is happening in Ni-H >>> systems >>> emits detectable radiation ... IE something easily detected with a >>> sensitive Geiger Muller Tube.. >>> >>> How strong is the evidence for excess enthalphy and radiation emissions >>> being correlated in Ni-H systems? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> > > >
