can you use your insight to tell what "fuels" would work best, instead of what 
products are produced.You have to get the reaction working before you can start 
looking for products.  d2
 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:11:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:thoughts on LENR energy
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Physics has seven magic numbers. An atom with a magic number of protons or 
neutrons is super stable. When both the protons and neutrons are magic, that's 
a double magic atom. There are only seven of them. 
The seven magic numbers are 2, 8, 20, 28, 50, 82, and 126. They are the number 
of nucleons - which can be either protons or neutrons - you need to fill up the 
shells found in the atomic nucleus. The completely filled shells cause the 
atomic nucleus to be more tightly bound together than simple calculations would 
predict, meaning the magic atoms are unusually stable.
So, if both the neutrons and protons happen to be magic numbers, the atom is 
not only extra stable, but its nucleus is also rigidly spherical, which is very 
unusual and helps observers confirm the doubly magic properties of the atom. 
These isotopes - which include helium-4 (2 protons and 2 neutrons, and one of 
the most abundant isotopes in the universe), lead-208 (82 protons and 126 
neutrons, and the heaviest stable atom), and the pair of calcium-48 and 
nickel-48 (the former has 20 protons and 28 neutrons, while the latter is vice 
versa). The latest to be discovered is tin-132, which has 50 protons and 82 
neutrons.
These protons and neutrons form shells as followsThe magic numbers are then
•   2
•   8=2+6
•  20=2+6+12
•  28=2+6+12+8
•  50=2+6+12+8+22
•  82=2+6+12+8+22+32
• 126=2+6+12+8+22+32+44
• 184=2+6+12+8+22+32+44+58

Miley and Hora identified that nuclei undergoing a LENR reaction want to 
stabilize at the highly stable double magic number configuration.This is 
because neutrons want to be paired with protons to form a spherical nucleus 
with perfectly shaped shells.

.Elements with lots of unpaired neutrons like Th232 and U238 would make for 
great LENR metals. These metals would stabilize at lead 208.Some nuclides are 
double-magic, in that the number of protons and neutrons are both magic, such 
as helium-4, oxygen-16, calcium-40, calcium-48, nickel-48, and lead-208. These 
isotopes are particularly stable and this is where LENR wants to go. 
Hora who is Miley’s collaborator, makes a convincing case that the nucleus 
conforms to a R (n) (n = 1, 2, 3…) of the Boltzmann probabilities, namely R (n) 
= 3n. This suggests a threefold property of stable configurations at magic 
numbers in Nuclei, consistent with a quark property.
Now, we can use this nuclear engineering background to predict what the LENR 
ash content will look like.
In LENR two concurrent processes are occurring simultaneously: fusion and 
fission.The strength of these two reactions will reflect the amount of 
screening that the reactor can produce.
Elements built up by the fusion process will be subsequently disassembled by a 
fission process.But you can expect to see proton magic number elements like 
helium, calcium, oxygen, nickel, tin and lead appear in the LENR ash because 
they are proton magic number elements.
Also, you can expect to see Neutron magic number isotopes favored in LENR.It is 
a well-known fact that screening can increase the radiation levels of alpha 
emitters.
When screening intensity is increased, it is reasonable to expect that other 
light elements besides Helium(Z=2) will be expelled(aka fission) from the 
nucleus. 
These are Lithium(Z=3) , Beryllium(Z=4), and Boron(Z=5).Also intermediate 
elements will form that result from the emissions of these light elements like 
iron, chromium vanadium, titanium, and scandium.Sulfur(Z=16) will form from the 
beryllium(Z=4) emission from calcium(Z=20). 



On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:52 AM, DJ Cravens <[email protected]> wrote:






 
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:21:44 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Subject: [Vo]:thoughts on LENR energy
 

In LENR, the delicate balance within the nucleus between nuclear attraction and 
the electrical repulsion between protons is disturbed in the opposite fashion.
In the light of LENR fusion, a nucleus with many unbalanced neutrons like Ni64 
will be elongated and energetic due to asymmetry neutron energy.


 
cheers:   axil
 
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You may want to check George Miley's analysis in: Miley, G.H., Name, G., 
Williams, M.J., Patterson, J.A., Nix, J., Cravens, D., and   Hora, H. 1996,. 
“Quantitative Observation of Transmutation Products Occurring in Thin-Film 
Coated   Microscopheres During. Electrolysis,” Progress in New hydrogen, pp. 
629-644, (  1997). 36.   

you can find a good clear graph of products here:
http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/showthread.php?699-Ni-H2-ECat-Project/page33

 
The thing that you said that I notice is the "elongated" nuclei.    I remember 
looking at George's graph upside down - not to see products but to see what 
could be "fuel" and noticed that most are things with a significant quadrapole 
moment.  That is one reason I use rare earths in my "pixie dust" additions to 
electrolysis systems.  (along with a ferro magnetic for polarization of 
reactions, and something with a significant neutron cross sections - Gd, Th, or 
U)  

 
OK, OK, people make fun of my "pixie dust" (name due to Gene Mallove) but it 
works some times.
 
D2
 
 
 
                                          

                                          

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