The main technical challenges as I see them:

* The air/NG/water compressors
* The LKT's "buckets" are gonig to have to sustain large transients and
loads in force and voltage
* A fixture for the LKT that can hold megavolts without arcing
* Characterizing and then engineering for start up and shut down transients
* Integration of the LKT components with the rocket itself

Are there intermediate steps toward solving these independently?



On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Monroe L. King Jr. <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hummmm interesting indeed.
>
>  Monroe
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [AR] Rocket Driven Lord Kelvin's Thunderstorm
> > From: James Bowery <[email protected]>
> > Date: Mon, April 08, 2013 10:17 pm
> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> >
> >
> > Given the below results from the rocket propellant simulator:
> >
> > http://rocketworkbench.sourceforge.net/equil.phtml
> >
> > We have an air+methane+water fuel mixture rocket expelling droplets of
> > liquid water travelling at 1305m/s with a Carnot efficiency of about 70%.
> >
> > If you take two such rocket engines and put them in place of the water
> > droplets of a Lord Kelvin's Thunderstorm, you have would would appear to
> be
> > an electrohydrodynamic DC power station with the following rather
> > characteristics:
> >
> > * very high voltage
> > * high power to weight
> > * reasonably efficient
> > * burns a fuel that is cheap for at least the next several years
> > * NOx in sub-ppm as the only pollutant other than CO2 (which is a green
> > house gas)
> > * might even be used as water treatment.
> > * the only moving parts are the compressors
> > * very little touble with cooling capacity given the H2O mass flow rate
> > * with additional downstream equipment might be tuned to treat water as a
> > side job
> >
> > Sorry for the cross-post to vortex-l as well as arocket but this is up
> > Beatty's (vortex-l's) alley and certainly involves small scale liquid
> > rocketry.
> > Results
> >
> > Propellant composition
> > Code  Name                                mol    Mass (g)  Composition
> > 976   WATER                               512.0000 9223.8235   2H  1O
> > 578   METHANE                             55.0000 882.3353   1C  4H
> > 15    AIR (DRY AT SEA LEVEL)              1.0000 15479.2332   835N  224O
>  5AR
> > Density :  2.261 g/cm^3
> > 5 different elements
> > H  O  C  N  AR
> > Total mass:  25585.392031 g
> > Enthalpy  : -5907.12 kJ/kg
> >
> > 149 possible gazeous species
> > 3 possible condensed species
> >
> >                        CHAMBER      THROAT        EXIT
> > Pressure (atm)   :     100.000      54.524       1.000
> > Temperature (K)  :     851.960     741.912     273.659
> > H (kJ/kg)        :   -5907.117   -6079.928   -6758.571
> > U (kJ/kg)        :   -6212.081   -6345.499   -6856.528
> > G (kJ/kg)        :  -13075.582  -12322.436   -9061.163
> > S (kJ/(kg)(K)    :       8.414       8.414       8.414
> > M (g/mol)        :      23.228      23.228      23.228
> > (dLnV/dLnP)t     :    -1.00000    -1.00000    -1.00000
> > (dLnV/dLnT)p     :     1.00000     1.00000     1.00000
> > Cp (kJ/(kg)(K))  :     1.59515     1.54548     1.37312
> > Cv (kJ/(kg)(K))  :     1.23719     1.18752     1.01517
> > Cp/Cv            :     1.28933     1.30143     1.35261
> > Gamma            :     1.28933     1.30143     1.35261
> > Vson (m/s)       :   627.05454   587.89672   355.38692
> >
> > Ae/At            :                 1.00000     9.06046
> > A/dotm (m/s/atm) :                 8.28502    75.06605
> > C* (m/s)         :               828.50159   828.50159
> > Cf               :                 0.70959     1.57508
> > Ivac (m/s)       :              1039.62801  1380.02098
> > Isp (m/s)        :               587.89672  1304.95492
> > Isp/g (s)        :                59.94878   133.06837
> >
> > Molar fractions
> >
> > Ar                    4.5393e-03  4.5393e-03  4.5393e-03
> > CO2                   4.9932e-02  4.9932e-02  4.9932e-02
> > H2O                   5.6468e-01  5.6468e-01  5.6468e-01
> > NO                    2.9860e-07  2.9860e-07  2.9860e-07
> > NO2                   5.0825e-08  5.0825e-08  5.0825e-08
> > N2                    3.7903e-01  3.7903e-01  3.7903e-01
> > O2                    1.8155e-03  1.8155e-03
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