>If that is true, then it follows that the Earth is doing work on
I think that the remainder of your sentence was cut off here Harry.
Harry
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 7:41 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:
If you are referring to my statement about the magnet and steel, I am not
confusing them. The force being applied to the steel is attempting to make it
come into contact with the magnet. Energy is being released by the magnet as
it draws the metal closer since it is having to work against my resistance to
that motion. It would be possible to measure the amount of energy by attaching
a force measuring scale to the steel part and slowly allowing it to come into
contact with the magnet. You would be able to integrate the force times
distance curve and obtain the energy.
>Does the magnet do work (use energy) when you are holding the steel at a fixed
>distance from the magnet?
No, if the steel is held steady then no work is being done by definition. Work
equals the integral of force times distance moved. Work was done when the
steel was moved from far away to the fixed position.
>When you let go of the steel and the steel accelerates towards the magnet, is
>the magnet doing work on the steel's inertia?
The magnet is doing work on the steel as it accelerates toward it. Magnetic
potential energy is being converted into kinetic energy in this case. This is
much like work being done on a mass that is moved within a gravitational field.
The same equations apply which is work(energy) equals the integral of the
force times the distance moved. This assumes that the force has a component
that is along the path the steel follows in space. A force that is always
applied at right angles to the motion does no work upon the object. This would
be similar to the motion of a charged particle traveling within a static
magnetic field. No work is done in that case.
Harry
Any technique that resulted in allowing the relative position of the magnet to
the steel to be reduced could in principle release a portion of that energy.
And, more pieces of steel could be introduced to the magnet in like fashion
where each one resulted in more energy release. Eventually, the field would no
longer exit the pile of metal and further energy could not be easily extracted.
The total amount of energy available escapes my calculation. The fact that
steel is being used in the extraction process might multiply the amount of
energy that can be obtained as compared to that which is stored in the original
field pattern. I am not confident in the later possibility and perhaps someone
else might know the answer.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Blanton <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Apr 14, 2013 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down
Don't confuse force with energy.
Dave
