Robin, Nice analogy of HUP [snip] ...yes but as I said before, the "enforcers" from the Bank of Heisenberg are real thugs (baseball bats are standard issue. ;)[/snip].. and I will apply it to ZPE and what these "thugs" do when the geometry confinement tries to curtail the "random" direction of their beatings.... It also makes a nice visual for the force behind the relativistic interpretation of the hydrino where space-time reforms so the thugs do have enough room to beat the hydrinos equally in all directions or from a Casimir interpretation the longer vacuum wavelengths are actually still present but now appear shorter to us so they can still fit in the cavity due to a symmetrical form of Lorentzian contraction [contracting along the time axis it shrinks equally on all 3 spatial axis].. no energy gain or loss due to translation if all else is kept constant but I am convinced it can be harnessed if some form of asymmetrical treatment is applied between the hydrogen atoms on the inward vs outward translations. The geometry accelerates and decelerates the gas atoms for free and we have to supply the recipe that reacts differently to these conditions so that HUP opposes the translation.. in my favorite theory it actually discounts the disassociation threshold of H2 such that H1 forms and then immediately reforms H2 and gives off more heat energy than was required to break it apart because of the discount. Naiveté perhaps, but still a good example of how the difference in suppression geometry could be exploited.. and another interpretation of the force that Storms coined " NAE". I don't think COE is violated by ZPE but rather the environment makes an exception to the rule that HUP always cancels out..at the macro scale we have isotropy that enforces COE but in Cavity QED the isotropy is broken.... http://th-www.if.uj.edu.pl/acta/vol27/pdf/v27p2409.pdf Regards Fran
From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:48 AM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat I went through the binding energy calculation for Ni62 -> Cu62 -> 5.2703255625 MeV energy gain On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:36 AM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:07:31 -0400: Hi, [snip] >*(The fact that we get so little is enshrined in the "law" of conservation >of >energy.)* > >The elctroweak force produces a 91 GeV W- particle out of the Higgs field. > >How can that happen when there is a "law" of conservation of >energy? Well my friends it happens all the time. That is what the Higgs >field does. ...yes but as I said before, the "enforcers" from the Bank of Heisenberg are real thugs (baseball bats are standard issue. ;) IOW you can borrow a large amount of energy, but only for a very short time, and the amount borrowed is directly related to the repayment time. The more you borrow, the shorter the term. Now you want to take out a loan, and skip the country. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

