Hi Robin, This is a VERY important point, and if there was such a thing as "slow beta decay" as you suggest, especially in nickel and palladium - then it would be fabulous for the entire field of LENR. Essentially, it would bolster Hagelstein's theory of slow energy dispersal. This could be a great finding if you really have an on-point reference for this!
You state that the actual decay energy of Ni-63 (which is well known and small) is not relevant, when in fact - this could be the most relevant thing to happen to the theoretical field in some time, if slow beta decay is a physical reality. It is HUGE. As it turns out, there are references for slow beta decay, but the unfortunately, the most authoritative reverences I've found so far indicates that in beta- decay the "nuclear mass reduction must be at least the rest mass of the electron. In energy units, it must be at least 0.511 MeV, the rest mass energy of the electron." You can, no doubt, see the huge problem there. In the case of Ni-63, the beta decay itself is much less than 511 keV! Therefore, it would seem that a prior reduction in mass cannot happen in the Rossi case of [Ni-62 + n → Ni-63 → to Cu-63] - which is the most important putative example in all of LENR if Rossi's patent is not some kind of elaborate scheme of disinformation (and - assuming that Rossi really has multi-kilowatt gain with no gamma radiation, as he claims) Here is the reference: http://www.eng.fsu.edu/~dommelen/quantum/style_a/ntbd.html#SECTION0861943000 00000000000 Please - if you have a counter-reference to support the concept of a slow beta decay process which releases energy in bundles of energy which are much less than 511 keV = lets discuss it. I doubt Hagelstein would have missed it, but maybe it is out there. It would be very important to the theoretical field to know about this ! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] In reply to Jones Beene's message I did see, but it's not relevant. It applies to Ni63 in the ground state, which undergoes a slow beta decay. However when a neutron is added to Ni62, you get Ni63 in a highly excited state (6.84 MeV), which must divest itself of that energy somehow. >Hi Robin, > >> A real neutron also leaves too much energy to account for: n + 62Ni => >63Ni + 6.84 MeV > >You must not have seen the reference I sent earlier - 63Ni has a beta decay >energy which is tiny - only 17.4 keV on average with no gamma. See it near >the end of this table (12th from the bottom): > >http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~blanchar/purebeta.htm
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