-----Original Message----- From: Edmund Storms > The glow discharge used by Mizuno and others is actually a plasma discharge in an electrolytic cell... but requires complex analysis of the input power.
To clarify a major point, Ed is correct about the older versions of CFR, and I wouldn't want to recommend any experiment nowadays which has input power which cannot be measured at the wall socket, with a kill-a-watt meter... or else from a large battery with a DC meter. This kind of Mizuno plasma requires high frequency at fairly high power - and that makes the input power difficult to measure UNLESS you have a dedicated power analyzer, like the Clark Hess, or else you measure it at the wall and include all the losses to get the HF power to the cell. From 700 watts to about one kW is ideal for this kind of plasma. When you can measure at the wall - and thus include power-supply losses into your calculations for gain, then things start to look very clean and far more convincing. This is highly recommended, but so far few experimenters do this, since HF power supplies can be lossy, and obviously - they do not want the experiment to carry those losses. There is a good argument that the experiment should carry that kind of loss, however. At any rate, several months ago Naudin developed a high efficiency, extremely low cost, power supply for this type of experiment - and the frequency can be in the range of 20 kHz to 60 kHz depending on the make of the induction hob. Thus, this kind of power supply can be measured at the wall, and did I mention it is unbelievably cheap - for anyone who can wind a Tesla pancake coil, which is essentially everyone above second grade elementary school. The induction cooker cost less than $100. Enjoy: http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/gegene14en.htm
