Ed:
Two things...
1. I don't think Fran's explanation adequately explained the Casimir
effect... (sorry Fran).
Theory posits that the vacuum is made up of almost an infinite range
of
frequencies (some have proposed a cutoff frequency, probably
approaching the
Plank frequency). Closely spaced, parallel conducting plates will
ONLY
exclude vacuum frequencies LARGER than the spacing between the
plates. This
is what creates the unbalanced forces which want to push the plates
together. All vacuum frequencies are pushing on the outside
surfaces of the
plates, but a limited range of frequencies are between the plates,
so forces
pushing plates apart is less than outside forces pushing plates
together.
This effect only becomes significant for very small plate separation.
2. Empirical evidence for the Casimir effect is now fairly well
established,
and has been tested by several groups, including Steve Lamoreaux
from your
old stomping ground of Los Alamos. It has also become a practical
issue now
that nanotechnology has reached the commercialization stage. The
following
is from the Wikipedia article:
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One of the first experimental tests was conducted by Marcus Sparnaay
at
Philips in Eindhoven, in 1958, in a delicate and difficult
experiment with
parallel plates, obtaining results not in contradiction with the
Casimir
theory,[22][23] but with large experimental errors. Some of the
experimental
details as well as some background information on how Casimir,
Polder and
Sparnaay arrived at this point[24] are highlighted in a 2007
interview with
Marcus Sparnaay.
The Casimir effect was measured more accurately in 1997 by Steve K.
Lamoreaux of Los Alamos National Laboratory,[25] and by Umar
Mohideen and
Anushree Roy of the University of California at Riverside.[26] In
practice,
rather than using two parallel plates, which would require
phenomenally
accurate alignment to ensure they were parallel, the experiments use
one
plate that is flat and another plate that is a part of a sphere with
a large
radius.
In 2001, a group (Giacomo Bressi, Gianni Carugno, Roberto Onofrio and
Giuseppe Ruoso) at the University of Padua (Italy) finally succeeded
in
measuring the Casimir force between parallel plates using
microresonators.[27]
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-Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:42 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)
Thanks for the description Fran. Let's focus on one subject at a
time, in
this case the Casimir effect.
While you use and value theory, I see no value in a theory unless it
fits an
observation. So, let's look at the Casimir effect in this context.
The
evidence for the theoretical idea called the Casimir effect is based
on a
force being measured between two slabs of material that form a
narrow gap
between them. The assumption is that the material blocks the vacuum
energy
from entering the gap. As a result, more force is pushing inward than
outward. Such a force results from all atoms in the material being
affected,
not just those atoms you might identify as part of a quantum process.
This model assumes the material blocks the vacuum radiation.
However, such
blocking has no justification. If no blocking or only partial blocking
occurred, the measurements would have no relationship to the proposed
theory. Yet, people carry on as if this measurement supports the
theory.
This looks like an idea that is accepted only because it was
expected based
on an assumption - the assumption being that energy exists in vacuum
that is
blocked by matter. As with all ideas, anything can be explained with
a few
assumptions and the mathematical tools that are available, whether the
effect is real or not. That is why the initial assumptions have to be
correct.
Let's go one step further. Let's assume energy does exist in the
vacuum,
which I agree is likely to be the case. This energy will
obviously have many effects. The question is: What are the effects?
If the energy is blocked by matter, then it can not get into
materials and
affect any process that takes place inside of any container or
inside of any
material, such as radioactivity as you proposed. If matter is
transparent,
the radiation can affect behavior inside of containers but not
produce the
Casimir effect. If matter is opaque, the Casimir effect would work,
but
nothing inside of a container or solid material could be affected by
the
radiation. In other words, the idea seems to have a logical
conflict. How
is this conflict resolved?
Ed Storms
On May 17, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Hi Ed,
Vacuum energy can never be totally blocked by Casimir geometry or
anything physical, even an ideal metal with optimum geometry won't
totally block vacuum energy since it needs to permeate all matter
in a
Wave Structure of Matter kind of way -cant have matter [a persistent
waveform / canoe stuck in the waterfall] without this medium passing
through our plane. All matter even at the smallest subatomic scale
has 8 sides, 6 spatial and 2 that we call temporal.
Relativity teaches us that a spaceship can travel along this temporal
axis without being aware of the difference to a stationary frame
until
comparing for time dilation upon return. We are in effect, a 3D ant
farm where the glass separates us from past and future but vacuum
radiation fills the entire 4D void. My neo Lorentzian posit is that
whatever rate these virtual particles/ vacuum wavelengths from the
void transgress through our 3d ant farm plane we will always perceive
locally as C. We will locally see the full spectrum of vacuum
wavelengths whether we are stationary at a spaceship approaching C or
a tiny hydrogen atom inside a vacuum suppressed cavity. I am
convinced
that whenever scientists talk about experiments where they suppress
certain vacuum wavelengths/ virtual particles in a lattice it is
actually dialation/ Lorentzian contraction they are observing. HUP
can
be envisioned as virtual particles from this void growing into one
side of our ant farm plane and then contracting out the other side at
whatever rate this medium happens to be passing thru..and these
virtual particles push matter randomly in every direction to make
room
for their passage -jitter.
Puthoff refers to a "vacuum pressure" when these virtual particles
encounter matter and this interaction being the clock works behind
ZPE
and the ground states upon which physics /periodic chart is based. I
think radioactivity and pyrophoricity are examples where this
interface is less stable but already normalized / rolled into our
science while Casimir effect will allow for a new science that
Puthoff
refers to as vacuum engineering. My pet theory remains that this new
science will allow for the presently considered unusable energy of
HUP
/ gas motion to be exploited.
From a temporal perspective our physical universe is a flat ribbon
[ant farm] where even the subatomic matter of molten metals in the
earths core are all equally exposed to the time axis, as the virtual
particles pass thru they impart ground state energy to all physical
matter and are responsible for all our physical laws at different
scales. I like to consider the atomic scale as the difference in
vacuum pressure on the nucleus and electron where the well between is
created by this moving sea of virtual particles passing through our
plane where more pressure is exerted on the nucleus and leaves the
electrons' attraction to forever chase the nucleus thru time.
Casimir effect is on a different scale and needs quantum effects but
IMHO it employs the same sort of relativistic methods to suppress the
vacuum. The formula makes it clear how the energy is proportional to
surface area and the cube of the spacing between suppression
boundaries.. a good analogy is the venturi effect where buildings act
as sails opposing the flow / creating pressure on outside surfaces
while the gap between buildings tries to alleviate the pressure and
"virtual particles" rush to exit the time axis via the spatial cavity
created by the geometry. Effectively accelerating time on average at
various rates according to the most local suppression geometry.. this
is why skeletal catalysts and casimir geometry are related, changes
in
casimir geometry are catalytic. A paper from Cornell confirms
catalytic action at openings and defects of nanotubes. The changes in
"pressure" according to cavity topology experienced by gas atoms is
just strong catalytic action. I think normal catalytic action is a
lesser combination of this rate of change in vacuum pressure while
these claims of anomalous heat are examples of super catalytic
action
where the average suppression rate is much higher and dynamic changes
in geometry more abrupt to the point where they can discount
reversible reactions to OU.
Surface area, figures of merit.... perhaps it is time to add geometry
for cat selection?
I didn't respond to your point of "thin" metal plates suppressing
radiation because frankly I don't know how the effect is modified
with
thickness -whether 10 atom sheets to make casimir plates would
measure
the same value as single atom plates.. I would guess several layers
would reinforce the quantum effect of the surface layers forming the
cavity.
Fran
-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:22 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)
Fran and Andy, I have always wanted to ask someone who believes in
the
Casimir effect why they think the vacuum energy would be blocked by a
thin wall of material. The vacuum energy is proposed to have a very
large frequency, which normally would be expected to pass right
through matter. Therefore, why would a cavity created by a few atoms
within a crystal structure have any effect on such radiation?
If the material is opaque to the radiation, the vacuum radiation
would
not even reach the cavities within the interior of the material and
have no effect on what might happen there. If the material is not
opaque, then the cavity does not exist as far as the radiation is
concerned. People keep trying to apply this model to cold fusion.
Cold fusion is difficult enough to understand without applying an
effect that itself makes no sense.
Ed Storms
On May 16, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Andy Findlay wrote:
Hi Fran,
Raney Nickel would indeed appear to be perfect territory for Casimir
effects to be taking place. But I'd need some therapeutic maths
counselling to comment sensibly on any relativistic effects.
Andy.
On 16/05/13 19:58, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Also skeletal catalysts like Rayney nickel are an inverse form of
Casimir geometry with pit sizes in the same sweet spot for strong
suppression of virtual particles as casimir plates. This was the
first clue that lured me in to believing these claims regarding
powders and skeletal cats like those used by Mills are all related
to the same underlying environment...supression of longer vacuum
wavelengths. All the claims regarding modified half lives and
relativistic energies leads me to believe the "suppression" is
actually relativistic and that the longer vacuum wavelengths remain
unchanged to a local observer in the pit of a skeletal cat or
cavities formed between powders grains or cracks in lattice of
Casimir geometry.
Fran
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Findlay [mailto:andy_find...@orange.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)
Hi Jack,
I had the same idea a couple of years ago. It gets even more
interesting when you realize that the NiAl + NaOH reaction produces
Raney Nickel (google it - it is a nano-porous material) which has
very interesting properties. The reaction effectively pre-loads the
Raney Nickel 'metallic foam' with Hydrogen.
I wonder if anyone has looked for anomalous heat in this process. I
suspect not.
Andy.
On 16/05/13 17:21, Jack Cole wrote:
Since either potassium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide react with
aluminum to produce hydrogen, I wonder if NiAl wire in
electrolysis
with KOH or NaOH might prove interesting. Any thoughts?
Perhaps even simpler would be adding this wire to a solution of
KOH
or NaOH without electrolysis. I don't know if the hydrogen
produced would load into the lattice.
Best regards,
Jack
