The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us important new things about the LENR reaction.
When the E-Cat melts down, its temperature reaches at least 2000C. The melting point of the ceramic used is in that temperature range. We know that ceramic is used in the reactor and that the LENR reaction can melt it. This is exciting. At that temperature, the nickel powder and the AISI 310 steel has long reached its melting point. The LENR reaction must be able to function in a liquid metal environment. The concept of an NAE supported in only solid material must be discarded. LENR must function in liquid and vapor. Riddle me that one batman. Collective, in other words, I will be awaiting your theories. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > Thanks Fran. It's nice to get an occasional agreement :-) However, how do > you propose to make helium and tritium from D and H by a process other than > fusion? Of course, the process is not like hot fusion, but this does not > remove another process that results in fusion as the mechanism. The W/L > mechanism is the only current published theory that does not propose > fusion, but this idea is so far from explaining any observation, it can be > ignored. > > Ed Storms > > On May 24, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: > > Ed, >> Good analysis and totally agree with your conclusions except for >> your description as a "fusion" process since that remains controversial >> would just call it an as yet "undetermined" process. [snip] , which allows >> the diffusion rate to drop enough to starve the fusion process of reactant >> and cool[/snip]. >> Fran >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] >> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:55 PM >> To: c...@googlegroups.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com >> Cc: Edmund Storms >> Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test >> >> A great deal of discussion has been generated by the Rossi test. I >> would liker to add my contribution. >> >> Rossi has demonstrated two very important behaviors of the effect. >> >> First, the effect can be initiated and sustained for a significant >> time at temperatures above 800° C. This means the NAE once formed is >> very stable. This degree of stability severely limits the theories >> that can be applied and eliminates most of the ones presently being >> explored. >> >> Second, he has shown that the effect can be effectively controlled by >> temperature. This means that one rate-controlling part of the process >> is endothermic. I have previously proposed that this part involves >> diffusion of H or D into the NAE. This suggestion is based on simple >> logic. The rate of the nuclear reaction is determined by how rapidly >> the reactants can assemble, which would be controlled by diffusion. Of >> course, once the reactants are assembled, the nucear reaction would be >> very fast and not be subject to control. >> >> To effectively solve the control problem, Rossi has maximized thermal >> contact between the NAE in the Ni and a source of temperature, which >> is the heaters. He has to apply power because the NAE in the NI has to >> cool rapidly once the LENR process tries to grow in intensity by >> getting hotter as a result of its own heat production. In other words, >> the effect involves two rate controlling processes, one is exothermic >> and the other is endothermic. Control requires a balance be created >> between the two. This balance uses diffusion as the control mechanism. >> >> He heats the material to a temperature that allows the heat producing >> rate in the NAE to start to self-heat. He then turns off the external >> heat source and the resulting temperature, which allows the diffusion >> rate to drop enough to starve the fusion process of reactant and cool. >> This process is repeated. A waveform of applied power is chosen to >> make this process as efficient as possible. >> >> Regardless of which theory a person wishes to apply, this description >> must be acknowledged because it is based on engineering principles, >> not on a theory of LENR. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> >
