Fair enough; there are ways to avoid the possibility of input fraud without demanding zero input power. For instance, to stipulate that the input drive circuitry be provided by an independent team and shared publicly. This need be nothing more complicated than a battery or DC power supply with a make-break relay powered by a 555 timer to emulate the pulsed drive condition. That means a two-wire feed capable of carrying a few hundred watts. That is so utterly simple that it cannot be faked.
Instead, we see secrecy about the control box and a Byzantine power feed mechanism consisting of 3 wires, and a power factor of 0.48. If you don't think that's fishy, then I don't know what to tell you. To me, it stinks. Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Jed Rothwell To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:web feed Andrew <[email protected]> wrote: That is precisely why I (and Duncan Cumming) are calling for a test whereby there is no power input for a decent amount of time. My understanding is that the Hot Cat will blow up if you do that. It is not stable running in heat after death mode. How do you know that the power meter was not selected by Levi and given to the group? It might have been selected by Levi, but I assume he is honest, and not conspiring with Rossi. Actually, I assume he is sane. I am certain that if it is fake, someone will soon find out, and Levi's reputation will be destroyed. He knows that as well as I do. Obviously, I also assume that Rossi is honest -- about his experimental results, that is. I have not seen a shred of evidence that he has lied about his tests, ever. He has lied about other things and other people, including me. He has botched his tests and refused to admit it. What kind of researcher would not put a scope on the cable? or would break open the cable to check for trickery? The cable is broken open. You cannot use a clip on ammeter without breaking out the cable. Usually you bring a pre-separated cable or breakout box supplied by the ammeter manufacturer, rather than taking an X-Acto knife to a regular cable. You can't measure voltage without exposing the cable either. Rossi is definitely not using an HTSC power cable or a gold cable. The breakout box would melt. The testers did neither of these things, and that's perhaps because not one of them was a competent EE, and/or trusted Rossi to not try and fool them. This is silly. No one has actually proposed a method of supplying enough "secret electricity" to melt a cell. It cannot be done. You need to put aside this nonsense. - Jed
