On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This assumes that 
the NAE are all less than a few atom diameters in size... I reject that.  Why 
couldn't they be 10s or 100s of atoms across?  In addition, there MUST be a 
physical/size limit to the extent ('excursion') of the electron 'clouds' of the 
wall atoms.  Beyond that, there would only be E/B-fields, and as far as I know, 
E/B fields do not have a temperature; do not absorb and emit photons.  It sure 
is dark way down in this wabbit hole!  Somebody care to shed some visible 
wavelength photons on this thought experiment?

Hi Mark,
                This gets back to arguments I had initially with Horace 
regarding how the fields form between the cavity walls to suppress wavelengths. 
I remain of the opinion that fractional values can pack down far deeper into a 
cavity then their physical diameter should allow for the confined volume. My 
posit is that the fractional values are relativistic, the redundant orbitals 
are formed by Lorentzian contraction where the gas atoms are displaced on the 
temporal axis at the expense of aging faster .. which is also why we see these 
claims for half-life anomalous decays.  The atoms must stay away from close 
proximity with the cavity walls where the quantum effect of the wall atoms 
deteriorate.
Fran

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