thanks , Alain,

Firts I remember receivibg the news about the oppression
and blackmailing to which Bockris was exposed/ A very dirty affair
lead by Taubes. At the institute where I was working it was a
cult of Bockris for many of his creative pre-CH works, so the story
was followed with great attention.

Re the dirty problem, each language-culture has his own tradition.
For Hungarian the respective product comes from dogs while
for other languages the source is not specified- ask general Cambronne
for yours, see "Kaltwasser Doctrine" for German, believe me that for
Romanian it is also so. I remember some nice things  told by
Toscanini- but have not studied the problem for Italian and Russian, mea
culpa/.

The joke is not supported by my S-theory of humor, see the septoe:
"92. Recipe of humor: sex, stupidity shit, sadism. surprisingly"

I have never tried but my vision is that searching for neutrinos is
masochism
not sadism- and the other components don't go too.
And even if you get them you have to tell what's their precise origin,

Peter


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>wrote:

> Sorry for my horrific english.
>
> For the french speaking people:
> 1-
> Je me demandais pourquoi lors du harcèlement moral de Bockris, on a parlé
> de "Horse Manure" (crottin de cheval) alors que l'expression populaire est
> "bullshit" (bouse de vache) ?
> Si c'est une version politiquement correct dans le monde académique, ou
> une spécificité texane ?
>
> 2- pour mon idée de blague à neutrino
>
> j'ai calculé que si une fusion nucléaire, comme dans le soleil, produit
> 24MeV et  2 neutrino, on peut produire le flux de neutrino solaire avec un
> réacteur 1MW placé à 1,3km.
> Ce qui permettrait a un détecteur de neutrino comme Super-Kamiokande de le
> détecter.
>
> Mais, coté théorique je ne sais pas si :
> - des neutrinos sont produits par les LENR NiH
> - s'ils sont produits en quantité suffisante
> - si leur énergie est suffisante pour activer des détecteurs type
> Super-Kamiokande
>
> mais, si ça marche, ça ferait une bonne blague.
>
>
>
> 2013/6/18 Peter Gluck <[email protected]>
>
>> Dear Alain,
>>
>> May I ask you to explain the joke in French too, 32 C here
>> and I am not at the peak of my, let's say, intellectual
>> performances.
>> Thanks
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Just a cultural point for a French non-academic like me.
>>>
>>> I know the english expression "Bullshit", an insult saying something
>>> have no value.
>>> It seems that in academic world this tem is upgraded to more stylish
>>> "Hors Manure" ?
>>> Or is it a Texan declination of the usual cow product ?
>>>
>>> about frauding the experiment of another researchers, if that is not
>>> "scientific misconduct", what is it ? the worse is that the researchers
>>> could have been accused of having himself committed fraud...
>>>
>>> For the revenge I have made some fast computation, on my own (it seems
>>> the subject is theoretically too controversial to allow jokes). I have the
>>> MOST STUPID PHYSICIST JOKE idea :
>>>
>>> my computation is based on few school-grade computation based on some
>>> Super-Kamiokande papers.
>>>
>>> Assume that you have a solar-like fusion reactor of 1MW at 1.3km from
>>> super-kamiokande, then  it will flood the detector with as much events as
>>> the sun itself...
>>>
>>> many question, since there is no evidence that LENR produce neutrinos,
>>> that they have enough energy to trigger super-kamiokande, and that they are
>>> produced with a similar ration from power to flux.
>>>
>>> the 512keV that Rossi (and others) talk about seems linked to a beta+
>>> decay, which let hope... question is how much neutrino would be produced.
>>>
>>>
>>> ANYWAY IF IT WORK, IT WOULD BE FUN !
>>>
>>> Peter, could you send the idea to Defkalion,
>>> If they succeed they will get huge media coverage.
>>>
>>> Their defense against science crime is :
>>> - we did nothing, it cannot exist
>>>
>>> Like impaling a skeptics with a pink unicorn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/6/18 Ruby <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What an excellent essay. The account of the second meeting on
>>>> transmuations:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "We held the meeting in the local Holiday Inn. Because of the assault
>>>> made by Professor Cotton and his colleagues on the first meeting we thought
>>>> that a more violent one might be made in this meeting and therefore hired a
>>>> deputy from the police department to be present outside the door
>>>> of the meeting in order to quell any attempt by members of the
>>>> Chemistry Department to suppress the presentation of new ideas by
>>>> violence.  The papers of the >96 meeting have been published in the Autumn
>>>> edition of New Energy of that year."
>>>>
>>>> Steven Krivit's archive contains the Proceedings of that meeting:
>>>> http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/fic/J/JNE1N3.PDF<http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/fic/J/JNE1N3.PDF#page=81>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/17/13 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I never asked Bockris about the harassment. He wrote about it here:
>>>>
>>>>  http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BockrisJthehistory.pdf
>>>>
>>>>  He told me that several other researchers got positive results but
>>>> were afraid to present them. Some of them asked him to present their
>>>> results as his own. I do not think he did.
>>>>
>>>>  - Jed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ruby Carat
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Skype ruby-carat
>>>> www.coldfusionnow.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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