Could we consider conversion of normal hydrogen orbitals to progressively smaller fractional values as a target for momentum sharing? I suspect h molecules opposes the motion between regions of different suppression geometry much more than h1 and may result in disassociation, like a Pd membrane, to get the atoms into the most confined spaces. When I first got interested in this effect I pictured the cavities like an ice packing plant powered by lock step motion in the motion to pump the orbitals down to progressively smaller orbitals and we still wonder if dihydrinos can hold their fractional value without the confinement or if they must immediately disassociate and return to normal hydrogen. Fran
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity? In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:09:01 -0400 (EDT): Hi Dave, [snip] I agree with what you are saying, I'm just having a hard time making use of it to explain (the lack of) momentum sharing. >If you take an extreme example it makes the process clear. Suppose there >exists a large current loop located a mile away from an electron source. The >point where the electron exits the gun has a magnetic field that is measurable >arising from this source and at right angles to the path it will take. The >instant the electron leaves the source it become deflected by the magnetic >field that exists at that precise point in time. It does not have to wait >until its motion is detected at the loop to begin the curvature. > >In this case, the electron is subject to a right angle force immediately due >to the field being present and not after a few microseconds of delay. Notice >that there would be no deflection had there not been an existing magnetic >field. > >An electric field from a large charge at a mile would behave in a similar >manner. In that case, the electron would immediately begin accelerating >toward the positive charge source and actually gaining energy as well as >momentum. The field itself must be the source of the force being experienced >by the electron since the actual charge causing the field is not aware of the >existence of the electron for the same delay due to light having a finite >speed. > >I tend to think of these types of processes as being influenced by changes in >local time due to distance between objects. In this case the electron is >responding to the source fields associated with an earlier time of their >existence from the source frame point of view. From the electron's point of >view, it is responding to its real time environment. > >Dave > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mixent <[email protected]> >To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >Sent: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 6:30 pm >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity? > > >In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:37:39 -0400 (EDT): >Hi, > >The problem I have with this is that it would allow any energy liberating >mechanism (even chemical reactions) to result in a particle simply "taking off" >with the momentum later to be passed to some other particle somewhere else >(potentially anywhere), after light has had a chance to reach it. > >We don't see this happen. > >>Robin, >> >> >>I do not see a problem with what Eric is suggesting. Regardless of how many >charges and moving charges reside in the universe, only the net vector fields >due to all of them is present at the location of the D reactions. The >superposition of all of the individual fields results in one final value that >interacts. The various vectors of the total could arise far away from the D >site, but their levels would drop off very fast with distance so only the >nearest ones would generally dominate. >> >> >>For example, the total magnetic field vector at a point determines how a >>moving >charged particle's path is curved at that point. The potentially far off >source >of that field does not have to get information about the movement of that >particle before the force is felt. This type of thought fits into the concept >that local time is what counts for a reference frame. Distance makes the >local >times different between the "friend" nucleus and the interacting D's. >> >> >>If you follow up on the momentum and energy pulses detected by the "friends" >nearby, then they would not see any reaction forces until the time required >for >light speed fields to reach them. After that period has elapsed, they would >be >subject to potentially large dynamic forces. >> >> >>Dave >[snip] >Regards, > >Robin van Spaandonk > >http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > > > Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
