"When people ignore you, you blame them."  I did not say people in general 
ignore me.  Just you.  You say I have no papers and no one ref. them.  Yet by 
your own site: a search shows 115 listings from "Cravens".  I take that as an 
indication of number of papers and references to them.  I am not as well funded 
as McKubre and Storms but they only have listings in the 300's, Celani 151.    
(notice you only have 159 and it is your site.)
I do not see that as people most people ignoring me.  Do not twist things to 
try to make a point. 
 
I disagree that only an engineer can understand a CF demo.  I think that many 
non-engineers will understand that there is something going on if one sphere 
stays warmer than another for 5+ days. They may question what is in there, but 
they will know something is going on.  You tend to down play others- public 
included. 
 
You should try to be smart enough to look beyond grammar and look at the 
science.
 
I still take your comments like ,  "You, Dennis, sometimes submit papers and 
put on a presentations (sic) not fit for a middle school science fair", as 
condescending an arrogant and a violation of Vortex rules.  Please avoid 
personal attacks. 
 
Notice your own lack of proper English  (above) while you are attack me. 
 
 
D2
 
PS, I do not think I have "Failed" as you put it.  I think I have done 
considerable with the resources and time available to me.  We cannot work in 
major labs, have secretaries/grad students, have mega buck rich friends ....... 
 Walk in another's moccasins before you condemn. 

 
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:01:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:News about Defkalion Europe...
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

DJ Cravens <[email protected]> wrote: 

I personally think that we need the public on our side and that means taking 
demos and information to a new audience.   But I guess it depends on your 
desired outcome.  If you just think of money then you may take a different 
tactic than if you are just after public awareness. 


Nonsense. That is a false dichotomy. At this stage the only members of the 
public who will understand a demonstration are scientists and engineers. A 
academic presentation to them is practically indistinguishable to a technical 
sales presentation you would make to get funding from any agency or investor.

98% of what you need to say or demonstrate at the NI conference is what you 
would say or do when meeting with venture capitalists, because the capitalists 
would bring a group of scientists and engineers to evaluate your claim.

If you cannot do a demonstration that impresses people at the NI conference you 
will NEVER impress the general public and you will never impress a funding 
agency. From what I have seen of your work, the reason you fail is not because 
the test itself is unconvincing, but because you make no effort to present it 
properly. You don't even bother spell English words correctly, for crying out 
loud. When I and others offer to help you blow us away!

Many professors write badly. They are always late. The papers are often 
disorganized. The spelling is awful and the use of Microsoft Word formatting is 
a nightmare. Here's the thing though: a department secretary or someone else 
ghost writes for professors. I have ghost written many papers for many 
professors.

You, Dennis, sometimes submit papers and put on a presentations not fit for a 
middle school science fair. You don't bother to make a video or even do a spell 
check. Okay some of your papers have been masterpieces, as Fleischmann said -- 
and as I plan to say at ICCF18. But your efforts are uneven. First impressions 
are important! People judge things by presentation and spelling. This is 
something you should have learned in high school. When people ignore you, you 
blame them. Grow up!

- Jed
                                          

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