Rossi fixed the gamma ray problem when he added the secondary heater to
preheat the E-Cat reactor before the initiation of the LERN reaction. This
cured the gamma ray problem is subsequent versions of the E-Cat. The new
Rossi systems do not produce gamma rays.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:26 PM, David ledin <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Jones Beene
>
> Why you insist that e-cat don't emit gamma ray while both rossi and
> focardi claimed otherwise.
>
> Here is a quote from Sergio Focardi talk in TEDx conference .
>
> "08:43 Now, one of the problems when we talk about these topics is the
> problem of safety. And, in this case the danger for the safety is the
> radioactivity, because being a nuclear reaction people foresee
> radioactivity emitted in the reaction. This is real, but we are lucky
> this process produce only gamma rays and not neutrons. I must say I
> pointed to the danger of neutrons from the start with the
> collaboration with Rossi; and Rossi, obviously, took the measures
> needed because, if there would be neutrons, the things would be
> difficult, because neutrons can be shielded but it is not a simple
> problem. Luckily there are not neutrons. But there are gamma rays. The
> presence of gamma ray I have experienced directly, in the first
> experiments in the laboratory Rossi had in Bondeno, because often I
> did the measures when Rossi was occupied doing his bidding. I, in the
> first measures used an instrument detecting radioactivity and measured
> the gamma rays. Not very dangerous, not big compared to the normal
> background, but anyway present. And it is obvious there was no reason
> to raise the natural radioactivity level."
>
> "10:40 But we never detected neutrons as this was my main fear because
> neutron are difficult to shield. But hey never showed. The problem of
> the gamma rays was solved simply adding, around the generators, small
> sheet of lead that are able to shield the gamma ray. So we can say,
> there is no risk of radioactivity when we work in this way. This is
> good not only for us but for when there will be commercial
> applications."
>
> full video and  transcription
>
> http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/11/sergio-focardi-presents-ted-talk-on-nickelhydrogen-reaction-video-in-italian/
>
> On 7/18/13, Giovanni Santostasi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > No, neutrino was proposed to explain missing momentum in nuclear
> reactions.
> > Alto it has a role in balancing nuclear reactions by balancing lepton
> > charge.
> > The solar neutrino problem came later and it was not invented to solve a
> > problem but it actually seemed to indicate a conflict between understood
> > nuclear reactions that were supposed to happen inside the sun and actual
> > detected. neutrino at earth.
> > The problem was solved by observing that the neutrino oscillates between
> 3
> > different types.
> > Giovanni
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> There are half a dozen new papers out this summer on various physical
> >> aspects of the neutrino - the elusive "ghost particle" of physics which
> >> was
> >> once an abstraction (lest we forget). The neutrino was invented with no
> >> evidence in order to "balance the books" of energetic stellar reactions.
> >> Nowadays, almost everyone (except Don Hotson) agrees that the neutrino
> >> has
> >> mass detectable on earth (formerly it was thought to be massless). More
> >> on
> >> integrating Hotson's view (and the zero point field) with neutrinos -
> >> later.
> >>
> >> This effective level of neutrino mass has strong implications for dark
> >> matter, due to the incredible neutrino flux... as well as implications
> >> for
> >> anomalous earthly energy. BTW the solar neutrino flux is estimated at a
> >> minimum of ~ 3.5 billion/cm^2/sec up to 200 billion/cm^2/sec. Even the
> >> low
> >> estimate is mind boggling in terms of how much energy is available on
> the
> >> capture and conversion of a tiny percentage, and we do know that some
> >> elements capture a few (very few).
> >>
> >> Best I can tell, the consensus for neutrino mass in 2013 is about half
> >> the
> >> value which was being floated around in 2010, which was an upper limit
> or
> >> .28 eV/c^2. This is complicated by the fact that various neutrinos have
> >> differing masses but can "flip" - which itself seems to violate CoE.
> >>
> >> Anyway, the most interesting factoid about the value of neutrino mass
> for
> >> LENR, and especially in the context of the Rossi HotCat are the
> >> "coincidences". The HotCat is the first devices which seems to work in a
> >> very robust manner at a peak photon resonance in the infrared range ...
> >> and
> >> around a wavelength of slightly over 10 microns. This wavelength just so
> >> happens ... drum roll ... ta da...
> >>
> >> ... to "coincidentally" be in a range where plasmon/polaritons are known
> >> to
> >> form, which happens "coincidentally" to be the value of the blackbody
> >> emission spectrum of planet earth, which happens "coincidentally" to be
> a
> >> range of mass-energy corresponding to ... you guessed it ... the solar
> >> neutrino. All of these details are connected at ~10 microns wavelength,
> >> hot-but-not-too-hot.
> >>
> >> Maybe it is too soon to connect the dots? (quantum dots indeed)
> >>
> >> It is worth mentioning  the implications of one possibility - that the
> >> plasmon/polariton operates as an effective "antenna" for capturing a
> >> small
> >> fraction of the massive solar neutrino flux- since this would help to
> >> answer
> >> the major question of how Rossi can achieve so much thermal gain with
> >> zero
> >> gamma radiation. Even if true, this antenna-like function is not enough,
> >> since any IR emitter should show gain at 10 microns, and we know that is
> >> not
> >> the case.
> >>
> >> So if it is not thermal gain which is captured by plasmons/polaritons,
> >> then
> >> what is it?
> >>
> >> More on that later, but if you guessed that polaritons interact with
> >> neutrinos in something akin to [mass <-> charge] interaction, then go to
> >> the
> >> head of the class. That would be where the polariton gets it huge
> >> electric
> >> field.
> >>
> >> Jones
> >>
> >
>
>

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