Axil Axil Thanks for clarification can you give me a reference about this .
On 7/18/13, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > Rossi fixed the gamma ray problem when he added the secondary heater to > preheat the E-Cat reactor before the initiation of the LERN reaction. This > cured the gamma ray problem is subsequent versions of the E-Cat. The new > Rossi systems do not produce gamma rays. > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:26 PM, David ledin > <[email protected] >> wrote: > >> Jones Beene >> >> Why you insist that e-cat don't emit gamma ray while both rossi and >> focardi claimed otherwise. >> >> Here is a quote from Sergio Focardi talk in TEDx conference . >> >> "08:43 Now, one of the problems when we talk about these topics is the >> problem of safety. And, in this case the danger for the safety is the >> radioactivity, because being a nuclear reaction people foresee >> radioactivity emitted in the reaction. This is real, but we are lucky >> this process produce only gamma rays and not neutrons. I must say I >> pointed to the danger of neutrons from the start with the >> collaboration with Rossi; and Rossi, obviously, took the measures >> needed because, if there would be neutrons, the things would be >> difficult, because neutrons can be shielded but it is not a simple >> problem. Luckily there are not neutrons. But there are gamma rays. The >> presence of gamma ray I have experienced directly, in the first >> experiments in the laboratory Rossi had in Bondeno, because often I >> did the measures when Rossi was occupied doing his bidding. I, in the >> first measures used an instrument detecting radioactivity and measured >> the gamma rays. Not very dangerous, not big compared to the normal >> background, but anyway present. And it is obvious there was no reason >> to raise the natural radioactivity level." >> >> "10:40 But we never detected neutrons as this was my main fear because >> neutron are difficult to shield. But hey never showed. The problem of >> the gamma rays was solved simply adding, around the generators, small >> sheet of lead that are able to shield the gamma ray. So we can say, >> there is no risk of radioactivity when we work in this way. This is >> good not only for us but for when there will be commercial >> applications." >> >> full video and transcription >> >> http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/11/sergio-focardi-presents-ted-talk-on-nickelhydrogen-reaction-video-in-italian/ >> >> On 7/18/13, Giovanni Santostasi <[email protected]> wrote: >> > No, neutrino was proposed to explain missing momentum in nuclear >> reactions. >> > Alto it has a role in balancing nuclear reactions by balancing lepton >> > charge. >> > The solar neutrino problem came later and it was not invented to solve >> > a >> > problem but it actually seemed to indicate a conflict between >> > understood >> > nuclear reactions that were supposed to happen inside the sun and >> > actual >> > detected. neutrino at earth. >> > The problem was solved by observing that the neutrino oscillates >> > between >> 3 >> > different types. >> > Giovanni >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> There are half a dozen new papers out this summer on various physical >> >> aspects of the neutrino - the elusive "ghost particle" of physics >> >> which >> >> was >> >> once an abstraction (lest we forget). The neutrino was invented with >> >> no >> >> evidence in order to "balance the books" of energetic stellar >> >> reactions. >> >> Nowadays, almost everyone (except Don Hotson) agrees that the neutrino >> >> has >> >> mass detectable on earth (formerly it was thought to be massless). >> >> More >> >> on >> >> integrating Hotson's view (and the zero point field) with neutrinos - >> >> later. >> >> >> >> This effective level of neutrino mass has strong implications for dark >> >> matter, due to the incredible neutrino flux... as well as implications >> >> for >> >> anomalous earthly energy. BTW the solar neutrino flux is estimated at >> >> a >> >> minimum of ~ 3.5 billion/cm^2/sec up to 200 billion/cm^2/sec. Even the >> >> low >> >> estimate is mind boggling in terms of how much energy is available on >> the >> >> capture and conversion of a tiny percentage, and we do know that some >> >> elements capture a few (very few). >> >> >> >> Best I can tell, the consensus for neutrino mass in 2013 is about half >> >> the >> >> value which was being floated around in 2010, which was an upper limit >> or >> >> .28 eV/c^2. This is complicated by the fact that various neutrinos >> >> have >> >> differing masses but can "flip" - which itself seems to violate CoE. >> >> >> >> Anyway, the most interesting factoid about the value of neutrino mass >> for >> >> LENR, and especially in the context of the Rossi HotCat are the >> >> "coincidences". The HotCat is the first devices which seems to work in >> >> a >> >> very robust manner at a peak photon resonance in the infrared range >> >> ... >> >> and >> >> around a wavelength of slightly over 10 microns. This wavelength just >> >> so >> >> happens ... drum roll ... ta da... >> >> >> >> ... to "coincidentally" be in a range where plasmon/polaritons are >> >> known >> >> to >> >> form, which happens "coincidentally" to be the value of the blackbody >> >> emission spectrum of planet earth, which happens "coincidentally" to >> >> be >> a >> >> range of mass-energy corresponding to ... you guessed it ... the solar >> >> neutrino. All of these details are connected at ~10 microns >> >> wavelength, >> >> hot-but-not-too-hot. >> >> >> >> Maybe it is too soon to connect the dots? (quantum dots indeed) >> >> >> >> It is worth mentioning the implications of one possibility - that the >> >> plasmon/polariton operates as an effective "antenna" for capturing a >> >> small >> >> fraction of the massive solar neutrino flux- since this would help to >> >> answer >> >> the major question of how Rossi can achieve so much thermal gain with >> >> zero >> >> gamma radiation. Even if true, this antenna-like function is not >> >> enough, >> >> since any IR emitter should show gain at 10 microns, and we know that >> >> is >> >> not >> >> the case. >> >> >> >> So if it is not thermal gain which is captured by plasmons/polaritons, >> >> then >> >> what is it? >> >> >> >> More on that later, but if you guessed that polaritons interact with >> >> neutrinos in something akin to [mass <-> charge] interaction, then go >> >> to >> >> the >> >> head of the class. That would be where the polariton gets it huge >> >> electric >> >> field. >> >> >> >> Jones >> >> >> > >> >> >
