Yes, this forum is available to the public without subscription. Things posted here are part of the public record. Notice their priority date of Nov 2011. I know there are other applications that are moving slowly through the PTO that have priority dates earlier than this and some in continuations. It will be an interesting battle in which only the lawyers will profit. I find it interesting that they do not mention the role of Deuterium. So p+d and d+d systems might be outside of their claims if it is required. D2
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 13:50:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] We here at vortex have publically disclosed and discussed many of these concepts (i.e. Rydberg matter, inverted Rydberg matter and clustering) as applied to LENR that have been reveled in this patent back as early as 2010 and 2011. To my knowledge we were the first do so. Does that effect prior art as pursuant to the newly defined US patent law? On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Chuck Sites <[email protected]> wrote: First a warning, , If your trying to build an cold fusion device for profit via patents you may want to skip this article. Otherwise you will have first hand knowledge of prior art. If you curious like me and just want to understand how things work, then this is probably an interesting read. I stumbled on this link from some chain of discussion that was occurring when the Defkalion demonstration was running, and someone mentioned that there was a patent already on the device. This is a international patent issued by WIPO to Pekka Soininen for a device described as a "THERMAL-ENERGY PRODUCING SYSTEM AND METHOD". It looks exactly like the Defkalion reactor, down to the spark plugs, the metal hydrides and the Rydberg atoms. International Publication Number WO 2013/076378 A2. http://www.roxit.ax/FinsktLENRpatent.pdf I would think that if Rosi and Defkalion are not currently holding patents on their technology, this could be very disruptive towards their business plans. Also, does any know who Pekka Soininen is. He seems to be a new name in the LENR field (at least to me). Best regards

