In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 8 Aug 2013 19:06:20 -0400: Hi Axil, [snip] >So sorry, please excuse me but the surface electrons on the surface of a >metal micro particle dont orbit. The oscillate in a dipole(s) upon the >surface of the micro particles n an electron gas. > > >In physics, a plasmon is a quantum of plasma oscillation. The plasmon is a >quantization of plasma oscillations just as photons and phonons are >quantizations of electromagnetic and mechanical vibrations, respectively. >Thus, plasmons are collective oscillations of the free electron gas >density, for example, at optical frequencies. Plasmons couple with a photon >(infrared) to create a quasiparticle called a plasma polariton. > >Look it up, Wikipedia is seldom wrong.
All this is fine, but what does it have to do with what I wrote here below? (BTW I'm no great believer in IRH, I just wrote my opinion of how it might work, if it turns out to be correct.) > > >On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:23:01 +0000: >> Hi Fran, >> >> In IRH, the proton orbits the electron. >> >> The vastly larger mass of the proton is why the orbit is much smaller. In >> this >> state, the proton is essentially in the classical "ground state", so no >> variation in vacuum density is required. >> >> If you take the equation for the radius of the normal H atom, and >> substitute the >> mass of the proton for the mass of the electron, you will see what I mean. >> >> The energy release upon entering such a state is at least several hundred >> eV. (I >> calculate a maximum of 50000 eV). Note however that the state relies upon >> the >> electron not being able to move, i.e. it is "stuck in place", and the >> actual >> radius of the proton orbit will depend on the degree to which it is >> "stuck", >> because the proton actually orbits around the center of mass. The >> "stuckness" of >> the electron determines it's apparent mass, and hence the CM radius. >> (This is the ping pong ball in the corner of the box again. I.e. the >> electron's >> real mass doesn't change, but it's apparent mass can be very large, if it's >> stuck in a rigid lattice. At least that's the only way I can make sense of >> IRH). >> >> BTW the reason that I say it stays shrunk is that it has lost so much >> energy >> when formed. In order to expand again it would have to get that energy back >> again, and unlike you, I don't think energy can be extracted from the ZPE >> (but I >> could be proven wrong). >> >> New idea (nothing to do with IRH): >> >> Perhaps a Hydrinohydride ion (negative) and a proton can orbit one another, >> analogous to positronium, but with the proton mass substituting for the >> electron >> mass? >> Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
