Testing.

What both builders of the Ni/H reactor have done is to find the proper
pulse rate for the plasma creation reaction through trial and error testing.


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Axil,
>
>  You discuss the destruction and reformation of NAE over a finite period
> of time.  Do you think that there is some negative feedback mechanism in
> effect which forces the new formations to match the old ones that have been
> destroyed?  It seems logical that a process that does not have a direct
> connection between production and destruction of NAE would proceed to
> either thermal run away or ultimate cool down.
>
>  I suppose that a process might originate where elevated temperature
> results in that destruction being enhanced, particularly in the hot spots.
>  The question is: What keeps the process in balance according to your
> hypothesis?
>
>  Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 20, 2013 10:23 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: about the Nuclear Active Environment
>
>   LENR is driven by a specific topology that directs electrons into the
> special motions and concentrations which result in the LENR reaction.
>
>
>   Cracks are a good example of this topology in that through the
> discontinuity of the lattice that a crack provides, dipole motion meets a
> boundary condition that forces electrons to follow a circular path as a
> vortex electron currents forms.
>
>  This dislocation of dipole motion must occur at the surface of a metal
> at the boundary between the metal a dielectric isolator.
>
>
>  The downside of a permanent lattice structure like a crack is that it
> will deteriorate over time due to the stresses placed on its topology as
> nuclear reactions occur in and around this boundary location.
>
>
>  The crack will erode over time and the special conditions that cause the
> electrons to behave in this special way will no longer be preserved over
> extended time.
>
>
>  But discontinuities in dipole movement will also occur between
> nano-particles and micro particles.
>
>
>  These discontinuities will be continually reformed and dispersed in a
> dynamic process as the particles float and bump around in the turbulent
> motion of a hot hydrogen atmosphere.
>
>
>  These nanoparticles will also be destroyed by nuclear activity, but that
> can be occasionally rebuilt out of the condensation process after the
> plasma stage produced by a hot heater element or a spark discharge.
>
>
>  In this way, the NAE, is continually rebuilt at a fixed rate that
> exactly counters the rate of destruction caused in these particles by
> nuclear activity.
>
>
>  The effective LENR reaction is a fluid process of continual destruction
> and renewal that any solid structure cannot duplicate.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Terry, the problem is psychological, not scientific. Understanding CF
>> requires a change in perspective, which is hard for many people to do. You
>> need to look at the system in which the nuclear reaction occurs from the
>> perspective of the assembly of atoms, i.e. like a chemist does.  The
>> chemical system os constructed by interaction of the electrons and this
>> interaction has very clear rules. Any change required to initiate a nuclear
>> reaction will be communicated to this assembly and cause changes before the
>> change will be experienced by the nucleus. That process provides the basic
>> limitation to any mechanism proposed to occur in the lattice itself. In
>> other words, to cause a nuclear effect, the chemical structure will also be
>> affected in ways that will stop the nuclear process. This is how a chemical
>> system is known to behave based on centuries of experience by chemists and
>> by examining material over geological time. A change in perspective is
>> REQUIRED before a person can fully appreciate the role of the chemical
>> system.  That is why a condition must be created outside of the rules that
>> apply to the chemical system. The region INSIDE a crack provides this
>> environment. Events occurring in this region would not affect or be
>> affected by the chemical structure, hence could form a condition able to
>> initiate a nuclear reaction. This is a very basic insight that cannot be
>> "falsified" in the usual way. It requires a change in perspective to be
>> evaluated.
>>
>> This situation is similar to how the relationship between the Sun and
>> Earth was once explained,  A change in perspective was required before the
>> correct analysis could be done. Before this change in perspective occurred,
>> very convincing mathematical analysis showed that the Sun circled the
>> Earth, as was obvious to any casual observer. The tools available at the
>> time could not falsify this concept.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>>
>>  On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Sunil Shah <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> A long time ago, in Solid State Physics, I read about various types of
>>>> Dislocations in crystals (grains). Are they the NAEs? They move with
>>>> applied/internal stress/pressure.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Dislocation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dislocation>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wikipedia has a good article on defects in crystals:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Crystallographic_defect<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystallographic_defect>
>>>
>>> But many think that no defect is required in the crystal structure for
>>> LENR.
>>>
>>> There are strong arguments for both but, as yet, I have not seen one
>>> that was demonstrably falsifiable with today's tools and technology.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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