The total energy and momentum of the system which consists of three bodies (such as a two planets and a central star) does not need to drift in order for a planet to be send into the outer reaches. It just has to be redistributed. When one of the bodies is much smaller than the other two, the little guy can be sent packing in a hurry.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Franks <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 11:43 am Subject: Re: [Vo]: Collective Phenomena http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_drift On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote: Hi :) On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM, John Franks <[email protected]> wrote: I was thinking about your desire to have quasi-particles, which are low energy collective phenomena operating over several 10s of nm, somehow do the impossible and behave like a real particle with reduced charge etc. Personally, I think the quasi-particle lead is a red herring when it comes to explaining LENR. I understand that quasi-particles are only very weakly bound -- the binding energy being much less than an eV. I also am not impressed by coherent-motion theories. (As a physics dilettante, I have no basis for not being impressed. I'm just not.) I was looking at the wandering planets thread and probably the reason for the observed ejection is a phenomena called "digital energy drift" (wiki it). This sounds a little like a rogue wave phenomenon [1]; Jones mentioned something similar sometime back [2]. I'm personally guessing the planets in the simulation are being ejected because of a gradual floating point error (I think James Bowery alluded to this) or just insufficiently sophisticated handling of the startup of the system. Eric [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg22649.html
