The motion of free protons inside the lattice might be accelerated by the collective motion of the host lattice. Harry
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:31 PM, John Franks <[email protected]> wrote: > So if that little guy is a proton against the 10^8 -10^9 collective of > other protons with thermal energy 25meV or so, that gets you in the ball > park... > > What are the conditions to make this so - H2 loading, cracks, a lattice > over say a liquid (no-one uses Hg). Any other pointers? > > Still having trouble with what happens after the reaction because of the > femto level it is free space compared to the lattice on the 0.1nm level and > the thermal wavelength of the heavy nuclei can't be making them overlap to > behave collectively. > > > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:13 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ... > > When one of the bodies is much smaller than the other two, the little guy >> can be sent packing in a hurry. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Franks <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 11:43 am >> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Collective Phenomena >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_drift >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi :) >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM, John Franks <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I was thinking about your desire to have quasi-particles, which are >>>> low energy collective phenomena operating over several 10s of nm, somehow >>>> do the impossible and behave like a real particle with reduced charge etc. >>>> >>> >>> Personally, I think the quasi-particle lead is a red herring when it >>> comes to explaining LENR. I understand that quasi-particles are only very >>> weakly bound -- the binding energy being much less than an eV. I also am >>> not impressed by coherent-motion theories. (As a physics dilettante, I >>> have no basis for not being impressed. I'm just not.) >>> >>> >>>> I was looking at the wandering planets thread and probably the reason >>>> for the observed ejection is a phenomena called "digital energy drift" >>>> (wiki it). >>>> >>> >>> This sounds a little like a rogue wave phenomenon [1]; Jones mentioned >>> something similar sometime back [2]. I'm personally guessing the planets >>> in the simulation are being ejected because of a gradual floating point >>> error (I think James Bowery alluded to this) or just insufficiently >>> sophisticated handling of the startup of the system. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave >>> [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg22649.html >>> >>> >> >
